Ive looked, and didnt find a thing, but does anyone have or know of a list with the amount of fashions each ability in puppetry and vodun cost? thanks for your help

It's in the AB files if you are one of the classes

yea im apostate though so im stuck there

Under 30 you're okay, 30-70 you should be careful, 70+ get ready to tumble.

lol at letting them get more than 15 fashions outside the arena

FYI, I made those numbers up entirely.

I dont care about how many they needs to win, I care about how many fashions each specific abililty uses up each time its used

25 for command, 1 fashion is used per command.

5 for tickle, confusion, spy, dizzy. 10 for sleep. 15 for reckless, 20 for blackout,which takes 4, and aeon which takes 10, 25 for mangle which takes 4, 30 for cripplewhich takes 7, and summon which takes 7, 40 for concussion which takes 30. Can't remember the rest

You could just find a Jester or Shaman in game and ask!

God knows there are enough of them around nowadays. Ugh.

I agree. Delete both of these classes.

And here I thought we were friends, Kallorn.

I'm only joking!

I like fighting -with- you guys, just not against you.

I agree. Delete fashion skills.

I'm glad the admins don't listen to you. The game would have gotten very boring a long damn time ago.

Whatever happened to this idea?

I agree. Reimplement obliterate.

We're working on it. At least the killing dolls faster bit. If you have specific suggestions about this sort of change, please send me a PM; I'd be happy to listen. (Please do not contact me in-game unless it's unavoidable.)

Joking or not,

- all of you.

Bring back oblit, besot, shake, and let serpents use EVADE while mounted and bring their steeds with them.

Oh, you.

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yea tried and havent gotten many responses therefore, after trying i turn to this venue. if any shaman or jester are available that I have not contacted, please let me know here or in game. oh and yea, damn those fashion classes have become more than tough to handle. otha, agreed, if you wanna keep the fashions, you must stay in room with them, or have them lose fashions when they are not in room or maybe area, of target

This is a retardedly abusable idea. It turns fashions into hypnosis.

If people are fashioning you and staring at you so intently.

Shouldn't they be more prone to hypnosis, not less?

Except you don't need to hypnotise someone thirty-five times to initiate your bread-and-butter kill sequence.

n;s;attack person x100

Let's be honest..35 fashions takes less than a minute or so to get.

That doesn't mean turning fashioning into hypno is any less horrible of an idea.

Thirty-five fashions is easy. It becomes hard when they can leave the room and drop you to zero fashions. That's what I was responding to, wasn't it?

Delete puppetry altogether.

In this thread: Whiners.

No one understands my post

The fashioner would be stuck in the room for a set period of time, none of that run in/out crap.

Also, if someone is staring intently at me, why the @#$@#$ can't I hypno them faster (or at all, see above).

(The root idea is terrible and just me venting)

On a tangent:

I absolutely dislike when people try to remove Achaea as a game and make the argument to change skills/abilities based on: "This really couldn't happen." Or try to come up with things such as this to "Better the game and make it more realistic."

Achaea is a game. It's cored around fantasy, I'm not going to rant here.

Know that no skill will ever be changed on the concept of making it more realistic. Achaea isn't realistic, it's why a lot of people are here, it's their hobby to avoid the realistic world.

Tecton, please ravage Vodun/Puppetry like you ravaged axestun, standing axk, trb, obliterate, shake, kai banish, and several other obviously OP things. It is for the good of Achaea, as is the deletion of veils.

Thank you.

Why does everyone think the solution to everything is to delete it from the game? Soon there won't be anything left...

The fact is surviving long enough to get fashions is not easy. If you let a Jester/Shaman get 70+ fashions on you it's your own fault.


(The Ovid/Daje method of kill room fashions not included.)

This is incorrect, due to the ability to fashion/run with the greatest of ease.

This is incorrect data.

In my opinion, the only classes that Shamans and Jesters should have even the slightest bit of trouble against is Infernel and Apostates, due to the large amount of hindering, the burst kill methods, and the unstoppable set up.

Every other class, it should be easy to kite them in order to get 102 fashions.

lol at anyone who thinks getting fashions is hard. Killing certain people -might- be tough but collecting fashions is a walk in the park, even against infernals and apostates (esp as shaman with dagaz/stonewall/tumble, jesters can tower/somersault).

You are wrong. Very very wrong.

It's threads like these that really make me miss all of you guys.

The daring shaman on the flying trapeze.

Delete vodun/puppetry and replace it with something not retarded please.

- I hate Jesters and Shamans.

Getting fashions is incredibly easy. Vodun/Puppetry are unique in that the buildup is slow but impossible to stop without running away.