Drauka
Oct 13 2009, 03:25 AM
I've pretty much ruined any kind of creditability and stability on my character (in-game). I've been almost every class and in several different houses, some more than once, with no record of sticking with anything for a long period of time (generally due to me quitting the game and coming back, wanting a "fresh start"). I've also accomplished nothing of any real value for all the years of playing the game, other than trans of skills and some artefacts which is easy. I've also never really built up any real relationships in-game of value. Experience in Ashtan is a bit ruined now, especially since it just happened. I would think the same would be true with Mhaldor, where Drauka was previously (having been in the Congregation twice). Though my experience is only really been in Ashtan and Mhaldor, with some minor years in Cyrene as a Bard and Jester when I first started the game years ago.
Is my character salvageable? Drauka will not beg or grovel. Money is not really an issue, with regards to credits for gold and lessons, etc.
Suggestions? Just curious if anyone can see a way out of this mess, or is best to just toss Drauka up as a loss?
DetheaLesDitor
Oct 13 2009, 03:37 AM
Every character is salvageable. It just depends on how long it will take to accomplish this goal.
I suggest picking a path that would seem like the most interesting to you, and having your character stick to it, even if it takes a very long time to erase whatever negative reputation he has accumulated (if this is your goal). Remember, you will have to accept the fact that setbacks will happen, along with other unexpected plots. These things are the fun parts of developing your character, though!
zii
Oct 13 2009, 03:41 AM
Be consistent.
Fauscht
Oct 13 2009, 03:43 AM
its alot of work but redemption is something that is allowed being you can properly come up with the means and storyline to make such happen. I was lost alot starting off, I know a wide variety of people and I am a general pain in the ass, but you dont essentially have to search for overall satisfaction just find your niche where you enjoy the teachings of something or the education process.
Decide if you wish to be a combatant, a scholar, an adventurer or so forth, even being well rounded is cool.
The most important thing is that regardless of your past if you strive to be something and prove yourself to the cause which you wish to become you can essentially be whatever you want to be. You just have to apply yourself.
Those my kind sir are the glories of Roleplaying...its essentially choose your own adventure....with effort.
Im not saying I am a role model for advice, but its really what you make of it. Dont let the opinions of others discourage you...alot of peoples opinions in game are deep seeded in their personal characters history and background. What I reccomend is start yourself by writing a character history and goals...and reflect on that to make yourself what you wish to be.
Darroth
Oct 13 2009, 03:49 AM
Well, every character is salvageable but it matters how much you'll put into it. Look at bleak, used to be a hard core griefer but now he's all honor fairness plz. However, people don't forget and they jump at the chance to lame/ridicule him. I'd just start an alt though, start out completely fresh and stay with your house.
Irion
Oct 13 2009, 03:57 AM
I would stick it out, it'll be a lot of work, but I would say that it's worth it in the end. Just think of all those interactions Drauka has in his past that you can use to build a new future. A blank slate is nice, but not as fun.
Exelethril
Oct 13 2009, 04:09 AM
Welcome to Shallam.
Trevize
Oct 13 2009, 04:18 AM
Be consistent and build up enough of a recent reputation (this will take time, yes) that it will be considered over your previous one.
Luciano
Oct 13 2009, 06:18 AM
I think the position that Drauka is in is unique and could be very fun for you. If you really want more RP than PK. These should be things you thrive on, but like I believe Dethea said, develop a character plan.
Nitro
Oct 13 2009, 09:55 AM
Just stick with, don't bother too much about what other people/players think about you. But just be a bit consistent, find a goal, work for it, etc.
Peter
Oct 13 2009, 11:17 AM
If you want "a fresh start" all the time, people aren't going to like you.
You must understand that its not just you devoting time to your character. House leaders, city leaders House members etc. all try to help you, mold you, train you. It's annoying when you spend time trying to help somebody and he suddenly turns his back on you. I can completely understand why Erhon did what he did.
Drauka
Oct 13 2009, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the advice, lots of good stuff here!
I am going to stick with Drauka. I will be writing out a plan and storyline focus, seeking to stick to it and achieve within it. I got a few ideas. I think also part of this next phase of my character with also include changes in me (the person behind the keyboard) in that I won't be venting and whatnot on forums (only will be posting to help/comment on existing things game changes and such).
Will take a few days to come up with something though, and whatever it is I won't be leaking it to forums (only in-game). I know, what a novel concept.
Balynne
Oct 13 2009, 03:18 PM
If you are just going to continue doing what you are doing now and have been doing previously, then no, your character is not salvageable.
Mishgul
Oct 13 2009, 03:25 PM
I started anew

I can't really play anymore, so many class changes and trade ins and Carmain can't compete at a combat level that I want him to anymore. Maybe one day i'll dig him out of the dirt but i'm sticking with my ar peeeing right now. It's easier to start on an alt, even if everyone knows who you are OOC, you are still a different character and you can act differently and people will treat you differently. I enjoy it more.
Landra
Oct 13 2009, 03:28 PM
Quitting the game and coming back is pretty difficult. Especially if you forgot the concept and the people you had relationships with. As long as you can stick with a reachable goal and turn that goal into decent rp with other characters, you should be fine. I stopped playing for a a long time (30 ig years) and when I returned I wanted a fresh start too. It was difficult since all of my char.'s family and friends where gone, but I ended up quitting my city, joining a new one and completely turning my goals my char once had into new ones. Just stick with one plan and see where it leads you.
Azu
Oct 13 2009, 03:47 PM
Man, I'm glad this thread is here. I realized quite a while ago that suiciding Azu was the biggest mistake in Achaea I've ever met, and have always wanted one last go to revive him. Of course I haven't done this because I realize a ton of people, house mates and old friends mostly, would be really really upset with this. I've never had a character like him, and I long for the kind of experience I had when I was playing him. Maybe it's time to suck it up, take all of the abuse for a while, and prove that I'm serious with him this time.
Sorry for jacking your thread Drakua, it just fit my situation so perfectly
Cooper
Oct 13 2009, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (Darroth @ Oct 12 2009, 10:49 PM)

Well, every character is salvageable but it matters how much you'll put into it. Look at bleak, used to be a hard core griefer but now he's all honor fairness plz. However, people don't forget and they jump at the chance to lame/ridicule him. I'd just start an alt though, start out completely fresh and stay with your house.
You're kidding right? Bleak jumps and teams people all the time without any sort of cause. He raids Mhaldor, then teams members of Shallam with Mhaldorians.
Gorlasintan
Oct 13 2009, 07:42 PM
If everyone in Achaea just ignored Bleak entirely, it would be so much better.
Darroth
Oct 13 2009, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Oct 13 2009, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (Darroth @ Oct 12 2009, 10:49 PM)

Well, every character is salvageable but it matters how much you'll put into it. Look at bleak, used to be a hard core griefer but now he's all honor fairness plz. However, people don't forget and they jump at the chance to lame/ridicule him. I'd just start an alt though, start out completely fresh and stay with your house.
You're kidding right? Bleak jumps and teams people all the time without any sort of cause. He raids Mhaldor, then teams members of Shallam with Mhaldorians.
Well, all my interactions with him has been very different than his old self. Of course you don't really bring out the best in people Cooper.
Cooper
Oct 13 2009, 08:54 PM
Of course not, Darroth.
But then again, you could kill me if I didn't have my insane amount of artefacts (back in the day, which consisted of a level 2 bracelet and a diadem).
Jonathin
Oct 13 2009, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (Drauka @ Oct 12 2009, 11:25 PM)

I've pretty much ruined any kind of creditability and stability on my character (in-game). I've been almost every class and in several different houses, some more than once, with no record of sticking with anything for a long period of time (generally due to me quitting the game and coming back, wanting a "fresh start"). I've also accomplished nothing of any real value for all the years of playing the game, other than trans of skills and some artefacts which is easy. I've also never really built up any real relationships in-game of value. Experience in Ashtan is a bit ruined now, especially since it just happened. I would think the same would be true with Mhaldor, where Drauka was previously (having been in the Congregation twice). Though my experience is only really been in Ashtan and Mhaldor, with some minor years in Cyrene as a Bard and Jester when I first started the game years ago.
Is my character salvageable? Drauka will not beg or grovel. Money is not really an issue, with regards to credits for gold and lessons, etc.
Suggestions? Just curious if anyone can see a way out of this mess, or is best to just toss Drauka up as a loss?
You wouldn't have such an issue if you didn't just join and quit the same Houses/cities over and over.
Drauka
Oct 13 2009, 10:12 PM
QUOTE (Jonathin @ Oct 13 2009, 05:51 PM)

QUOTE (Drauka @ Oct 12 2009, 11:25 PM)

I've pretty much ruined any kind of creditability and stability on my character (in-game). I've been almost every class and in several different houses, some more than once, with no record of sticking with anything for a long period of time (generally due to me quitting the game and coming back, wanting a "fresh start"). I've also accomplished nothing of any real value for all the years of playing the game, other than trans of skills and some artefacts which is easy. I've also never really built up any real relationships in-game of value. Experience in Ashtan is a bit ruined now, especially since it just happened. I would think the same would be true with Mhaldor, where Drauka was previously (having been in the Congregation twice). Though my experience is only really been in Ashtan and Mhaldor, with some minor years in Cyrene as a Bard and Jester when I first started the game years ago.
Is my character salvageable? Drauka will not beg or grovel. Money is not really an issue, with regards to credits for gold and lessons, etc.
Suggestions? Just curious if anyone can see a way out of this mess, or is best to just toss Drauka up as a loss?
You wouldn't have such an issue if you didn't just join and quit the same Houses/cities over and over.
I'm fully aware and agree.
Knowing my problems isn't the issue or topic of the thread

The issue is if my character is salvageable in spite of all these problems.
Peter
Oct 13 2009, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (Darroth @ Oct 13 2009, 10:21 PM)

QUOTE (Cooper @ Oct 13 2009, 08:37 PM)

QUOTE (Darroth @ Oct 12 2009, 10:49 PM)

Well, every character is salvageable but it matters how much you'll put into it. Look at bleak, used to be a hard core griefer but now he's all honor fairness plz. However, people don't forget and they jump at the chance to lame/ridicule him. I'd just start an alt though, start out completely fresh and stay with your house.
You're kidding right? Bleak jumps and teams people all the time without any sort of cause. He raids Mhaldor, then teams members of Shallam with Mhaldorians.
Well, all my interactions with him has been very different than his old self. Of course you don't really bring out the best in people Cooper.
when i fitst started playing Bleak i was 16 years old. Now im 22. I think thats THE big difference.
Darroth
Oct 13 2009, 11:43 PM
And you were stoned off your ass the whole time.
Exelethril
Oct 13 2009, 11:54 PM
If you're stuck in a rut, the only way out is to dig yourself out of the rut. Like me, umm.. I'm not entirely sure I'm meant to be a priest. I've been threatened with ex-communication four or five times so far but I've managed to hang in there and managed to RP my way out of it. Like, be nice to people in general, you can have fun but just dont get to the point of annoying or over-snuggly. If you've burned all your bridges in Ashtan and Mhaldor, you could try RPing as a convert to Good in Shallam or Cyrene. Just a warning though, it gets pretty boring pretty fast and you have way too many restrictions placed on you.
Sidonia
Oct 13 2009, 11:59 PM
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Oct 13 2009, 11:54 PM)

If you're stuck in a rut, the only way out is to dig yourself out of the rut. Like me, umm.. I'm not entirely sure I'm meant to be a priest. I've been threatened with ex-communication four or five times so far but I've managed to hang in there and managed to RP my way out of it. Like, be nice to people in general, you can have fun but just dont get to the point of annoying or over-snuggly. If you've burned all your bridges in Ashtan and Mhaldor, you could try RPing as a convert to Good in Shallam or Cyrene. Just a warning though, it gets pretty boring pretty fast and you have way too many restrictions placed on you.
Exelethril is not salvagable.
Acarion
Oct 14 2009, 12:03 AM
Ride it out, buddy.
Quoren
Oct 14 2009, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Oct 13 2009, 07:54 PM)

If you're stuck in a rut, the only way out is to dig yourself out of the rut. Like me, umm.. I'm not entirely sure I'm meant to be a priest. I've been threatened with ex-communication four or five times so far but I've managed to hang in there and managed to RP my way out of it. Like, be nice to people in general, you can have fun but just dont get to the point of annoying or over-snuggly. If you've burned all your bridges in Ashtan and Mhaldor, you could try RPing as a convert to Good in Shallam or Cyrene. Just a warning though, it gets pretty boring pretty fast and you have way too many restrictions placed on you.
Maybe you should try rp'ing a rogue? They don't have any RP restrictions placed on them.
flair
Oct 14 2009, 01:27 AM
Any character can be redeemed. It will just take some work. In game, Flair has always liked Drauku and out of game, I think the potential is there for a good Rper. The problem is, it's hard to get an order to put too much trust in you if you've been flaky. That said, it can be worked out in game, and I'd help you with Flair -if- you're sure that's the path you want to go.
Balthazar
Oct 14 2009, 01:48 AM
QUOTE (Sidonia @ Oct 13 2009, 06:59 PM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Oct 13 2009, 11:54 PM)

If you're stuck in a rut, the only way out is to dig yourself out of the rut. Like me, umm.. I'm not entirely sure I'm meant to be a priest. I've been threatened with ex-communication four or five times so far but I've managed to hang in there and managed to RP my way out of it. Like, be nice to people in general, you can have fun but just dont get to the point of annoying or over-snuggly. If you've burned all your bridges in Ashtan and Mhaldor, you could try RPing as a convert to Good in Shallam or Cyrene. Just a warning though, it gets pretty boring pretty fast and you have way too many restrictions placed on you.
Exelethril is not salvagable.
Nulaye
Oct 14 2009, 02:01 AM
When I first start a new game (any game) I make a few characters that I don't intend to keep. Explore, figure out how the game works, get some of my embarrassing questions and shameful mistakes out of the way.
Then when I find some place that I fit, that interests me, and where I can see sticking around long-term I make a new character and dive in head-first. That's basically where Nulaye is coming from. It doesn't help you too much with your current situation, but it's a bit of advice for tackling a new game or figuring out what will make you happy in Achaea (if you still want to be in Achaea in general).
If you know yourself to be picky, or that you have a hard time fitting in with certain kinds of groups, you need to be very careful about spending money and time and fighting hard to do something awkward just to prove you can do it. There are so many different groups and sub-groups and ways to play Achaea that something will surely suit almost every personality type. If you've tried over and over with Mhaldor and Ashtan and that's failing, then maybe that's just not your thing. It doesn't mean that you (as a person) are a failure. That's the important thing to remember.
I wouldn't be happy in Ashtan. Shallam made me ragey and nuts. Eleusis is lovely but at the time was too boring for me. Mhaldor was MY thing. Yours could be Hashan/Spiritwalkers, who knows.
You could make some little mini-alts and check things out in places you haven't explored, and when you find one you like go back to your main caracter and work hard for that. People in game will forgive anything over time and with some hard work, and I think that's been repeated here already. I mean.. Mhaldor let Cain have a third chance, right?

you can save your character, but be sure about your choices from this point on.
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