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Aspy
For those who live in Europe or come from Europe and don't know about UEFA clan here are some information.

It's a clan for, look above this text.

The clan works like a chat room for us fortunate enough to live in Europe mellow.gif

The clan is very ooc and we have a great time talking/making fun with each other.

So join up by contacting one of the following:

Cenadrak
Firey
Goraidh
Laras
Laila
Jellie
Elene
That list is a little outdated, Aspy m'dear. You can join by contacting one of the following:

Goraidh
Laras
Elene
Laila
Mononokey
Firey
Cenadrak

It is a great clan though! wub.gif
Aspy
QUOTE (Elene @ Sep 29 2009, 07:21 PM) *
That list is a little outdated, Aspy m'dear. You can join by contacting one of the following:

Goraidh
Laras
Elene
Laila
Mononokey
Firey
Cenadrak

It is a great clan though! wub.gif



I used the list of Primeministers on the clanhelp glare.gif
Herenicus
<insert soccer insult>

Elene
QUOTE (Aspy @ Sep 29 2009, 08:24 PM) *
I used the list of Primeministers on the clanhelp glare.gif


As did I! ph34r.gif

QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 08:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


We don't all like football, you know! (Yes, football. Damn heretics tongue.gif )
Peter
You might even get to see the real me wink.gif
Firey
QUOTE (Peter @ Sep 29 2009, 10:11 PM) *
You might even get to see the real me wink.gif


ohmy.gif

Join up, guys!
Elene
QUOTE (Peter @ Sep 29 2009, 10:11 PM) *
You might even get to see the real me wink.gif

wub.gif
berenene
What about those who, while not living there, do come from there, several generations removed though?
Laras
that won't work, sorry
berenene
QUOTE (Laras @ Sep 30 2009, 04:48 PM) *
that won't work, sorry

I have grandparents that immigrated over here from italy
rukimoro
dirty europeans
Elene
QUOTE (rukimoro @ Sep 30 2009, 11:46 AM) *
dirty europeans


And we like it tongue.gif
Alinoe
QUOTE (berenene @ Sep 30 2009, 10:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Laras @ Sep 30 2009, 04:48 PM) *
that won't work, sorry

I have grandparents that immigrated over here from italy


Doesn't count, descendant of criminals.

QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


It's called football, yank.
berenene
QUOTE (Alinoe @ Oct 1 2009, 02:05 AM) *
QUOTE (berenene @ Sep 30 2009, 10:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Laras @ Sep 30 2009, 04:48 PM) *
that won't work, sorry

I have grandparents that immigrated over here from italy


Doesn't count, descendant of criminals.

No, that's my English heritage on my mother's side. My father's italian side are mafia.
Herenicus
QUOTE (Alinoe @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


It's called football, yank.


It would be called fußball if it wasn't for 'merica! AMIRITE!?
Laras
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Oct 1 2009, 02:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Alinoe @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


It's called football, yank.


It would be called fußball if it wasn't for 'merica! AMIRITE!?


Herenicus even getting the ß right is impressive, eventhough it does not surprise me. Just one minor flaw, nouns get a capital letter in German.
Firey
QUOTE (Laras @ Oct 5 2009, 04:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Oct 1 2009, 02:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Alinoe @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


It's called football, yank.


It would be called fußball if it wasn't for 'merica! AMIRITE!?


Herenicus even getting the ß right is impressive, eventhough it does not surprise me. Just one minor flaw, nouns get a capital letter in German.


This has always annoy me, for some reason. So perhaps you can answer this simple question for me... Why?
Laras
interesting question. I can only say that all nouns are capitalized, whereas German does not capitalize "ich" ("I"), for instance.

Here some research results:

QUOTE
In German, all nouns and noun-like words are capitalized. This was also the practice in Danish before a spelling reform in 1948. It was also done in 18th century English (as with Gulliver's Travels and most of the original 1787 United States Constitution). Luxembourgish, a close relative of German and one of the three official languages of Luxembourg, also still uses capitalization of nouns to this day.


Some other source says that the capitalization in German started in the Late Middle Ages, first in Latin texts, and, from the 14th century on, in German ones, too. Back then, it became custom to show the importance of certain terms (back then not only nouns, though) by visually enhancing them - by starting those words with majuscules. Could be the first letter, but also first and second. This often was for instance done in religious texts, where the word Gott (god) could for instance be written as "GOtt". Over the years, things developed, limiting it to one capital letter only, for every noun. Apparently, this approach was later also chosen in other countries, for instance in Denmark (see first quote) and then, with the union of Denmark and Norway (1521 - 1814), even in Norway. Norway abandoned it again in 1869.

There have been various phases in Germany where it was heavily discussed to abandon the capitalization of nouns as well (last in 1996-2000, where various other rules were changed), but it was always decided against. Supporters of the capitalization claim it makes texts more easily readable for German readers, and the non-supporters claim this to be a false assumption, and point out that capitalization is a huge source of spelling errors.

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Although Kleinschreibung had its advocates, the framers of the 1996 German spelling reforms felt it was simply not politically feasible to call for the elimination of noun capitalization. As it was, they had quite enough controversy without adding Groß- und Kleinschreibung to the list.

In a way, leaving the noun-capitalization rule largely untouched was a good thing for students of German. It certainly makes it easier to spot a noun (das Substantiv, das Hauptwort) in German, something that many students find difficult to do in their own language! The rules for capitalization in German are in fact no more complicated than those for English or most other languages, but there are some differences that a student of German should be aware of. These differences can be a source of interference problems for someone learning German.
Firey
blink.gif I so should've known Norway used to this, too!

Thanks for a great research though, Laras smile.gif
Thi
I thought the new German spelling did away with the Eszett - or was that just in Switzerland? I remember when they introduced the new dictionaries back in primary school. Ah, confusion.
Laras
Roughly, it is like that : If the vowel before the ß is pronounced "long", the ß stays. Like in Fußball. If it pronounced "short", like in Fluss, it becomes ss. For all diphthongs (eu, ei, äu, au), it remains ß as well, as in: heiß (and not heiss)
Alinoe
QUOTE (Firey @ Oct 5 2009, 09:05 PM) *
blink.gif I so should've known Norway used to this, too!


Haha, you didn't? Did you even go to school? biggrin.gif
Alinoe
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Oct 1 2009, 01:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Alinoe @ Sep 30 2009, 12:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Herenicus @ Sep 29 2009, 07:25 PM) *
<insert soccer insult>


It's called football, yank.


It would be called fußball if it wasn't for 'merica! AMIRITE!?


You'd still have the Queen on your money if not for the french! AMIRITE?!
Thi
QUOTE (Laras @ Oct 6 2009, 07:12 AM) *
Roughly, it is like that : If the vowel before the ß is pronounced "long", the ß stays. Like in Fußball. If it pronounced "short", like in Fluss, it becomes ss. For all diphthongs (eu, ei, äu, au), it remains ß as well, as in: heiß (and not heiss)

Ahh, I see. I think in Switzerland they did away with it completely and replaced it with double s.
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