Full Version: Vadi
I've been thinking of getting the Vadi system latelh and would like to get some opinions on it. Good bad I wanna hear em all.
It's pretty cheap, has good support, is constantly updated, and is decently fast. It's also not customisable, and because of how common and inflexible it is, it's not hard for people to find flaws to exploit.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 23 2009, 01:59 PM) 
It's pretty cheap, has good support, is constantly updated, and is decently fast. It's also not customisable, and because of how common and inflexible it is, it's not hard for people to find flaws to exploit.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
Well for now I'm just looking for something to get started on.
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
It's pretty cheap, has good support, is constantly updated, and is decently fast. It's also not customisable, and because of how common and inflexible it is, it's not hard for people to find flaws to exploit.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
I agree with ' it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat'. However, as to 'it would be better to make your own if you can'; Vadi and others have put a lot of work into the system to make it damn good. No system is without it's flaws, but Vadi's system is only exploited as much because of its popularity. Unless you want to spend the next 4 years learning the ins and outs of Achaean combat; learn a TRUE scripting or programming language, AND be ready to constantly plug flaws in a system; Vadi system is more then fine.
Achaea's about having fun. If coding your own system for fun/learning purpose is what floats your boat, go for it. Otherwise, use other peoples experience and expertise to further your fun factor, without worrying about one aspect of the game as much.
It's very intrusive, which may be a bit hard to get used to... but the system+vadi mapper = good to fall back on if you ever buy it and don't want to actually use it. Making your own system is always the better option if you can.
QUOTE (Dusty @ Sep 23 2009, 02:10 PM)
It's very intrusive, which may be a bit hard to get used to... but the system+vadi mapper = good to fall back on if you ever buy it and don't want to actually use it. Making your own system is always the better option if you can.
i'm going to college for compuer programming bu i've never tried something like his.
My only comment is that it's been four or five days since I sent him the credits and I haven't yet received the system
vadi put firecrackers in my letterbox.
4 years to code a system? took me a week to code the core of my system and ever since it's just been adding triggers line and stuff. I'm not computer literate but I know how to read and that helped a lot
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Sep 23 2009, 07:11 PM)
4 years to code a system? took me a week to code the core of my system and ever since it's just been adding triggers line and stuff. I'm not computer literate but I know how to read and that helped a lot
I highly doubt you had a usable core of a system built when you had only been playing Achaea for a week.
An trigger for every affliction MAYBE, but not a core system.
The thing I am getting at in terms of 'is Vadi sys worth it', is the amount of time/experience you would personally need to code an effective system of the same magnitude. Yes, this involves constantly adding and updating triggers. Thing is, a system is never truly 'complete'. But in terms of functionality, even a 'base' system takes time to program, and to implement.
why would you be jumping into mid tier/high tier combat from the get go. It takes away some of the fun if you try to walk in all over with a fully functional system at week 1. most of my fun in combat has always been figuring out how I died, and having a system solve that for you without you doing anything just seems bland.
My suggestion? If you have the money, buy it and use it and build your own on the side. Also, you may get core systems scripted fairly fast, but the tweaking/perfecting of the system never really ends, so it's not really unheard of for a system to be worked on for years.
I heartily endorse the Vadi system.
Achaea is funtime and I don't find coding fun.
I've always found Vadi responsive and appreciative of information he didn't have. If you want to make it better, send him what he doesn't have. Include logs if it is involved. Send him lines that you think should trigger certain events. He's just one person, but he acts on what he's sent.
I also got several of the addons. The vial counter is a lifesaver.
Achaea is funtime and I don't find coding fun.
I've always found Vadi responsive and appreciative of information he didn't have. If you want to make it better, send him what he doesn't have. Include logs if it is involved. Send him lines that you think should trigger certain events. He's just one person, but he acts on what he's sent.
I also got several of the addons. The vial counter is a lifesaver.
I suggest Vadi as well, 100%. It is ridiculously cheap for the amount of service you get out of the deal. Sure it has problems, sure it makes mistakes - learn to manual around these and you'll become a better fighter anyway. Vadi's will keep you safe (without manualing) from 95% of the population - even those that say, "Vadis sux lolz it has holes in it and stuff."
Also, if you want to start coding slowly - code your own addons. It is a great way to get an introduction, and saves you the credits.
Also, if you want to start coding slowly - code your own addons. It is a great way to get an introduction, and saves you the credits.
Saves me from finishing my own (for now) and works well, especially for the price. It's only $30.
Vadi (the real-life person) is also very helpful and isn't rude (at least to me).
Vadi (the real-life person) is also very helpful and isn't rude (at least to me).
QUOTE (Lisbethae @ Oct 2 2009, 09:04 AM)
I've always found Vadi responsive and appreciative of information he didn't have. If you want to make it better, send him what he doesn't have. Include logs if it is involved. Send him lines that you think should trigger certain events. He's just one person, but he acts on what he's sent.
My suggestions are always fairly complex.
I'm 100% positive that my incessant suggesting/asking over AIM annoyed him to at least some degree, too - I can just imagine him thinking, "Again??" - but that's my problem 
ive been using Vadi for quite awhile now, and it is pretty good. Ive currently purchased 3 classes from him, the only downfall i see to it, is if you have another character you have to buy another class. And if you start using a different client you have to purchase a system for that client =\. Kinda puts a strain on my dollar since i just recently switched from Mush to zMud and i dont have the money to buy the zMud system from vadi so im systemless for right now =\. but other then that its a good system.
You don't need a different system if you're switching between zMUD and MUSH. It will work with any client that lets you specify where to connect.
what do you mean? so i just have to make a new world with the localhost and what not, and it will work?
Yep. Connect to localhost (IP 127.0.0.1), port 123 (or whatever it's set to) and it should work.
Vadi's system runs in an entirely separate program from the client you're using; all you do is connect to it, and it connects through to Achaea. You could use telnet if you wanted. 
speaking of Vadi, has anyone heard from him lately? I put in a request (sent credits, IG message, AIM message, and email) for a updated system as well as 4 addons I think, and this request was about 1-2 weeks ago, not sure the exact date, and I still have yet to receive such items. Anyone know whats going on, cause it never takes him -this- long to send something out
Shouldn't have sent him credits first. And I've been trying to get a hold of him too. No luck.
And I've been trying to get a hold of him too. No luck.
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
It's pretty cheap, has good support, is constantly updated, and is decently fast. It's also not customisable, and because of how common and inflexible it is, it's not hard for people to find flaws to exploit.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Tried the Nexus version, worked well for a while, and then I started making my own keybindings. That seems to make the system angry, and I had to delete it because it wouldn't sip, cure, or do...well, anything except def me up once. Every time I lost cloaking, I'd have to manually re-cloak, or do something that takes EQ. As she said, good for starters, mediocre to awful for anything long-run.
I don't know what's up lately. It took me quite some time to get a response from him on some things too...like a couple weeks or more.
He's been busy.
People do that.
He's alive, if that helps you sleep at night.
People do that.
He's alive, if that helps you sleep at night.
QUOTE (Soulfyriani @ Oct 7 2009, 12:08 AM)
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 23 2009, 01:59 PM)
It's pretty cheap, has good support, is constantly updated, and is decently fast. It's also not customisable, and because of how common and inflexible it is, it's not hard for people to find flaws to exploit.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Overall, I'd say it's a pretty solid system for getting started in combat, but it would be better to make your own if you can.
This also assumes you're not talking about the Nexus version. I don't know anything about that one, but Nexus is horrible and slow anyways.
Tried the Nexus version, worked well for a while, and then I started making my own keybindings. That seems to make the system angry, and I had to delete it because it wouldn't sip, cure, or do...well, anything except def me up once. Every time I lost cloaking, I'd have to manually re-cloak, or do something that takes EQ. As she said, good for starters, mediocre to awful for anything long-run.
The bolded isn't exactly what I meant. It's still a good system, I just think making your own would be better. Chances are Nexus is responsible for your problems more than the system.
I believe what Sena was saying is, anytime you code your own system you'll know the ins and outs of it. I've went through purchased systems for awhile and around the Ashtan/Shallam war I got tired of trying to manipulate other peoples codes and ideas they implemented (not to mention waiting on them to respond) and pulled up an old version of one I'd built up and started updating it. It was nice to change things on the fly, or if I was killed by something, go in and fix it so when they pulled the same trick again I had already updated it.
To date I still depend on purchased systems due to my deployment schedule, training, and not to mention it's nice not having to deal with the headaches. But if I ever got back into combat, like Sena said, it's best to have your own in the long run.
I hope this helps to clarify a little?
To date I still depend on purchased systems due to my deployment schedule, training, and not to mention it's nice not having to deal with the headaches. But if I ever got back into combat, like Sena said, it's best to have your own in the long run.
I hope this helps to clarify a little?
QUOTE (Kateb @ Oct 7 2009, 02:07 AM)
He's been busy.
People do that.
He's alive, if that helps you sleep at night.
People do that.
He's alive, if that helps you sleep at night.
I didn't want to create a new thread where I didn't need one. This one's title is completely sufficient.
When I'm playing, sometimes I get this from the console:
What is it and how do I stop it?
When I'm playing, sometimes I get this from the console:
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loading './Vadi_System_Serpent_Normal0_Version.dll'
loading './vadi_mapper.dll'
Everything's loaded - ready to play!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Too many messages! Disabling the console.
loading './vadi_mapper.dll'
Everything's loaded - ready to play!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Someone called show_prompt() from a paragraph!
Too many messages! Disabling the console.
What is it and how do I stop it?
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