What are commonly used triggers, aside from those which heal?

Does anyone use triggers that do offensive things, rather than defensive?

yea..if you were good enough to code it lall, you'd have triggers to see what your opponent cures to sync up your attacks, like it'd be great for a serpent. or at least i think

If you can keep up with the spam, manually tracking what they probably have is likely going to be better than what you could do with a system, due to the random curing order, and especially random curing abilities. Triggers to draw attention to important things can be more useful than triggers that track things for you.

As for me, I'd only automate very simple offensive things. For example, automated bashing attacks are usually fine, since it mostly consists of just attacking whenever you have balance, with the occasional secondary command (like swiftcurse for shamans). Other repetitive things like fashioning could be automated, as long as you can turn it off quickly enough. Triggers that complement your offense, instead of automating it, can be a better idea though. For example, an alias that, if you're on balance uses some attack, and if you're off balance, waits for balance and then uses the attack. That's a pretty simple example, but there are several things that can speed up or improve your offense without automating it.

What I usually prefer is utility triggers. Things like scanning the who list to find a person, or find who's in a certain room/area, or find who's with a certain person. Scripts to track several dolls, weapons, or other items, for easy use, switching, and organisation. Then there's also a ton of triggers that reformat or reorganise certain output, to make it prettier, more organised, or easier to read. And MXP triggers, so I can easily do certain tasks by clicking on text. I also like "flavor" scripts, that have no practical effect at all, but just make things a little more interesting. My attack substitutions are a good example, then there's also my system that lets me easily display periodic messages in certain rooms or areas (like those random "A twig snaps behind you." or "You smell fresh-baked bread." messages that don't mean anything, and just add to the environment). I also started working on a script that lets multiple perfume/oil/other similar messages combine into entirely new messages.

Autosipping.
Combat healing.
Antitheft.
Synchronized attacks/targeting for raiding.
Fishing.

That sounds great! Often with Serpent I get excited and just spam illusions, never getting balance.

How do you do this?

If you are off balance when you attack you have the attack alias set a variable to 1 or whatever. Then when you get balance back, another trigger fires and checks for things you told in to do. If any of the vars are set to 1, it does them. Obviously you would need to set something so it doesn't try to do like three attacks or whatever.

So For example:

Alias: jab
if balance == 1
send jab
else
set var jab 1

trigger: just your prompt matching one.
if balance == 1
if jab == 1
send jab target
else if nextmove == 1
send nextmove target
....... and so on

A trigger like that is illegal and can get you shrubbed according to this exerpt from HELP AUTOMATION:



A balance trigger to attack a denizen is an attack that gains you gold and experience, and is illegal.

We've already been through this in another thread, as long as you can pass a turing test, you're good.

ie. at least pay some attention to what's going on.

edit: grammar

Edit: Realised I just said exactly the same thing as Irion. Disregard.

Just attacking on balance could hardly be called automation, and it still requires you to be paying attention. You would still need to move, cure (if you don't cure automatically), possibly change targets, possibly run away or shield, etc.. If you're afk, attacking on balance will just kill all of whatever you're targeting in that room, and then do nothing at all without more input (or maybe an attack that knocks you off balance).

That's the problem with the automation rule. Where exactly is the line drawn? It's fairly nonspecific, probably because the administration want to be able to review on a case-by-case basis.

Anything you do not personally enter as a command through an alias or macro or type is automation. Things that generate gold or experience via automation are illegal. A balnace attack trigger is automation, and is illegal while bashing.

Of course it is not enforced, but that does not make it legal.

A trigger like that couldn't make any significant amount of gold or experience on its own, though. The experience gained is nothing compared to the experience saved by a basic curing system, for example.

A curing system cannot gather any amount of experience for you. You do that by attacking an adventurer or denizen, or completing a quest.

That's why I said save, and not gain.

Cooper autobashes.

Heh, you'd still have to move around manually and initiate the combat with the mobs. I think the main point of anti-automation rules is simply that you remain at your computer with achaea opnened.

I spoke once with a Divine about autofishing, and he basicly said that autofishing is fine, if you're at your computer and actually watching the achaea screen.

So you're technically right, but you acknowledge that it doesn't actually matter?

As for the rules as they currently stand, my guess would be that the rule comes across so strictly because there is no good way to write a rule that outlaws too much automation without simultaneously outlawing what most would consider legitimate automation for convenience. Reviewing things case-by-case is probably the best solution available.

Oh, wait, I think someone's already answered the automation question.





Edit: To clarify, they can't prove otherwise. The automation is more of a scare tactic, than a rule people actually follow to the letter.

From years back, when I started playing:


EDIT: I wish messages showed the year.

You started in '06.

Correct.

Auto anything is fine if you're not afk.

I like these too. I'm trying to think of some to come up with so I can inject them into my gameplay.

The other one I particularly like is the reminders that I have. When I log in, it checks date and if the month matches it gives me a personal reminder of something that is taking place.