Hello, folks.
I'm a new Jester, and, of course, I have a good amount of aspirations and ideas regarding combat—but since I'm so new, I've no clue as to whether or not my ideas are viable (practical, or otherwise). Can any experienced Jester give me some feedback? (Or someone who's knowledgeable of combat w/ Jesters, anyhow.) I plan to bash until I'm a relatively high level, then get into PK, but that doesn't mean I can't start learning theory early. Unfortunately, I don't have money to spend on credits.
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Is using 'hocuspocus' in combat a viable option? I'm sure it'd be rather difficult to set up, but it seems that with the right preparation, one can use it to confuse their opponent. Say, send illusions of multiple people attacking him / her -- while you throw, or handspring in, or something of the like.
What are the main "abilities" Jesters use in combat? (I'm not much interested in puppetry's obliterate, to tell you the truth, I'd much rather use Puppetry for IC reasons.) In every MUD, classes always have some relatively useless abilities. I've read, so far, Hangedman Tarot, Jack-In-The-Box, and Juggle, but I'm sure that's a very scant list. I also read of a Jester (I believe his name was "Zook") who was skilled enough in 'Weaponry' to juggle venom-coated axes (although he had something around 1,400 credits). Perhaps a better question is what abilities aren't used in Jester combat, as I'm sure there are different styles.
Is Thievery a sound option, being a Jester? Use of illusions, the heirophant tarot, ring of pestilence, and things like that?
What is the best race to be, combat-wise, as a Jester—not including Horkval for puppetry-tanking?
Any other, additional input would be appreciated. Sorry to burden anyone with what may be silly questions, but there aren't many starting-guides and things like that online.
Full Version: Jester Combat Assistance
Obliterate no longer exists. There's almost no chance of being a successful thief as a jester, and you can't use afflictions while stealing unless you already have cause on that person. Someone else will have to answer the combat-related stuff.
Without being transcendent in at least the class skills (puppetry, pranks, and tarot) you're going to have a hard time surviving, let alone killing anyone. The asterisks (*) indicate an ability's importance or high use in combat.
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9.38 PUPPETRY
* Fashion Fashion puppets from wood.
Confusion Muddle the thoughts of your victim.
Dizzy Cause your enemy to become unsteady on his feet.
* Sleep Send someone to the la la land.
Illusion Cause your victim to see an image of your choosing.
Spy See the surroundings of your target.
Status Find out what the health and mana of your target is.
Strip Strip someone's defences.
Paralyse Lock up the muscle system of your victim.
Break Break both the arms or both the legs of someone.
Throttle Choke the life out of the little bugger.
Reckless Induce a sense of extreme bravado in your opponent.
Tickle Tickle the feet of your puppet.
Burn Indulge your pyromania!
Bleed Make 'em bleed like stuck pigs.
Travel Take a trip to pay a friendly visit to your puppet.
Cripple Break all the limbs of some unlucky victim.
* Command You ARE the puppet master!
* Slow Make a victim move like molasses in Daedalan.
Puncture Give your puppet a sucker punch!
* Blackout Rob your victim of some of his senses.
Summon Hmm, wouldn't it be nice if she came for a visit?
* Bind Tie up your hapless opponent.
Listen Hear talking through your target's ears.
Inventory See the inventory of your target.
* Imbibe Prick your target to make them sick!
* Mangle If you thought breaking an arm hurt...
* Concussion The last thing I remember is being hit on the head, doctor.
Leech Turn yourself into a leech! Doesn't that sound fun?
* Truefashion Faster fashioning is fun fun fun.
* Fashion Fashion puppets from wood.
Confusion Muddle the thoughts of your victim.
Dizzy Cause your enemy to become unsteady on his feet.
* Sleep Send someone to the la la land.
Illusion Cause your victim to see an image of your choosing.
Spy See the surroundings of your target.
Status Find out what the health and mana of your target is.
Strip Strip someone's defences.
Paralyse Lock up the muscle system of your victim.
Break Break both the arms or both the legs of someone.
Throttle Choke the life out of the little bugger.
Reckless Induce a sense of extreme bravado in your opponent.
Tickle Tickle the feet of your puppet.
Burn Indulge your pyromania!
Bleed Make 'em bleed like stuck pigs.
Travel Take a trip to pay a friendly visit to your puppet.
Cripple Break all the limbs of some unlucky victim.
* Command You ARE the puppet master!
* Slow Make a victim move like molasses in Daedalan.
Puncture Give your puppet a sucker punch!
* Blackout Rob your victim of some of his senses.
Summon Hmm, wouldn't it be nice if she came for a visit?
* Bind Tie up your hapless opponent.
Listen Hear talking through your target's ears.
Inventory See the inventory of your target.
* Imbibe Prick your target to make them sick!
* Mangle If you thought breaking an arm hurt...
* Concussion The last thing I remember is being hit on the head, doctor.
Leech Turn yourself into a leech! Doesn't that sound fun?
* Truefashion Faster fashioning is fun fun fun.
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9.39 PRANKS
Handspring Leap at your foes in neighboring rooms.
Props Wish for the props that every good jester needs.
Balloons Float to the skies with balloons.
* Slipperiness Let your bad self shine on through.
Bop Bop your enemies with a blackjack.
Giraffes Twist a balloon into a giraffe. Wheee!
* Backflip Flip over obstructions like a monkey on kola.
Hocuspocus Cast coloured illusions to dazzle those about you.
Runaway And thou didst beat a brave and hasty retreat.
Concussionbomb Momentarily stun everyone in the room.
Butterflybomb Blast people from the skies and trees.
Balloonhandoff Launch your foes to the clouds with a big red balloon!
Backhandspring Leap out of the room striking someone on the way out.
* Balancing You're like a cat, you are.
Smokebomb Choke all in the room with a plume of smoke.
Juggling Damn, you're good.
Webbomb Explode strands of rope to bind everyone in the room.
* Acrobatics Leap and bounce to make yourself a difficult target to hit.
Badjoke It's everyone ELSE that has the bad sense of humour!
Mickey Slip some poor sucker a mickey.
Traps The ability to search for traps in your location.
Disarm Attempt to disarm a trap.
Graffiti Doesn't everyone deserve to share your wisdom?
* Somersault Quickly somersault past obstructions, even when bound.
Arrowcatch Pluck arrows from the air with the greatest of ease.
Bananas Litter the floor with slippery banana peels.
Firecracker Construct festive firecrackers.
Itchpowder Uurch...ergh! *scratch scratch* Arrgh! *scratch scratch*
Dustbomb Numb the sense of your victims with a bomb.
* Jack-in-the-Box An innocent musical toy with a vicious bite!
Timers Give your bombs a delayed effect.
Suicidemice Brainwash mice to carry bombs on their backs. Groovy.
Handspring Leap at your foes in neighboring rooms.
Props Wish for the props that every good jester needs.
Balloons Float to the skies with balloons.
* Slipperiness Let your bad self shine on through.
Bop Bop your enemies with a blackjack.
Giraffes Twist a balloon into a giraffe. Wheee!
* Backflip Flip over obstructions like a monkey on kola.
Hocuspocus Cast coloured illusions to dazzle those about you.
Runaway And thou didst beat a brave and hasty retreat.
Concussionbomb Momentarily stun everyone in the room.
Butterflybomb Blast people from the skies and trees.
Balloonhandoff Launch your foes to the clouds with a big red balloon!
Backhandspring Leap out of the room striking someone on the way out.
* Balancing You're like a cat, you are.
Smokebomb Choke all in the room with a plume of smoke.
Juggling Damn, you're good.
Webbomb Explode strands of rope to bind everyone in the room.
* Acrobatics Leap and bounce to make yourself a difficult target to hit.
Badjoke It's everyone ELSE that has the bad sense of humour!
Mickey Slip some poor sucker a mickey.
Traps The ability to search for traps in your location.
Disarm Attempt to disarm a trap.
Graffiti Doesn't everyone deserve to share your wisdom?
* Somersault Quickly somersault past obstructions, even when bound.
Arrowcatch Pluck arrows from the air with the greatest of ease.
Bananas Litter the floor with slippery banana peels.
Firecracker Construct festive firecrackers.
Itchpowder Uurch...ergh! *scratch scratch* Arrgh! *scratch scratch*
Dustbomb Numb the sense of your victims with a bomb.
* Jack-in-the-Box An innocent musical toy with a vicious bite!
Timers Give your bombs a delayed effect.
Suicidemice Brainwash mice to carry bombs on their backs. Groovy.
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9.5 TAROT
* Inscribing The ability to inscribe images upon blank Tarot cards.
Sun Create a portable light source.
* Cardpacks Use the handy cardpacks for easier storage.
Emperor Create the compulsion in others to follow you.
Magician Replenish your mana with the might of the Magician.
* Priestess Heal yourself with the benevolence of the Priestess.
Fool Shrug off afflictions with blind courage.
Chariot Create an infernal chariot to ride.
* Hermit Teleport to an uninhabited location.
Empress Summon your friends to you.
Lovers Create a strong love for you in your target.
Hierophant Compulse your victim to do your bidding.
* Hangedman Hinder your opponent with a mass of ropes.
Tower Cause a crumbling tower to appear in your location.
Wheel Spin the wheel and take your chances.
Creator Create an illusion in an adjacent room.
Justice Bring justice to the unjust.
* Star Strike down a foe with a flaming meteor.
* Aeon Curse your foe with the mark of Chronos.
* Lust Cause an opponent to hopelessly lust after you.
* Universe Transport yourself around the land.
* Devil Call a Devil to serve you, though no more than once.
Moon Bestow the maladies of the moon upon your enemy.
* Death Call down Death itself to claim the soul of your enemy.
* Supercharge Instantly charge your Tarot cards.
* Inscribing The ability to inscribe images upon blank Tarot cards.
Sun Create a portable light source.
* Cardpacks Use the handy cardpacks for easier storage.
Emperor Create the compulsion in others to follow you.
Magician Replenish your mana with the might of the Magician.
* Priestess Heal yourself with the benevolence of the Priestess.
Fool Shrug off afflictions with blind courage.
Chariot Create an infernal chariot to ride.
* Hermit Teleport to an uninhabited location.
Empress Summon your friends to you.
Lovers Create a strong love for you in your target.
Hierophant Compulse your victim to do your bidding.
* Hangedman Hinder your opponent with a mass of ropes.
Tower Cause a crumbling tower to appear in your location.
Wheel Spin the wheel and take your chances.
Creator Create an illusion in an adjacent room.
Justice Bring justice to the unjust.
* Star Strike down a foe with a flaming meteor.
* Aeon Curse your foe with the mark of Chronos.
* Lust Cause an opponent to hopelessly lust after you.
* Universe Transport yourself around the land.
* Devil Call a Devil to serve you, though no more than once.
Moon Bestow the maladies of the moon upon your enemy.
* Death Call down Death itself to claim the soul of your enemy.
* Supercharge Instantly charge your Tarot cards.
Bonko wtf. Hocus Pocus is really good. Timed illusions? srsly?
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Sep 14 2009, 09:06 PM) 
Bonko wtf. Hocus Pocus is really good. Timed illusions? srsly?
That effect you too
But you should know what you illusioned, so it would be easy to ignore.
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 14 2009, 09:13 PM)
But you should know what you illusioned, so it would be easy to ignore.
Unless you rely on systems like me
QUOTE (Boz @ Sep 14 2009, 09:25 PM)
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 14 2009, 09:13 PM)
But you should know what you illusioned, so it would be easy to ignore.
Unless you rely on systems like me
It's still easy to have the system ignore a line when it knows when and what the line will be.
Yeah, bro, all bombs, mickey, arrowcatch and timers are all worthless.
nvm
Splendid, I was hoping for a response from Bonko. Thank you.
I still have yet to figure out how many credits it takes to become transcendent in a skill, but if being transcendent in the three class skills is a minimum for survival, I'm afraid I don't know how well I'll do in the future. I wasn't sure if I'd be able to transcend in one skill.
I still have yet to figure out how many credits it takes to become transcendent in a skill, but if being transcendent in the three class skills is a minimum for survival, I'm afraid I don't know how well I'll do in the future. I wasn't sure if I'd be able to transcend in one skill.
It's about 293 credits or in that area to trans a skill from scratch.
QUOTE (Darroth @ Sep 15 2009, 10:44 AM)
It's about 293 credits or in that area to trans a skill from scratch.
With the credit bonus you get from binding credits, the number is knocked down to just a hair over 200cr, which is a pretty good reduction.
You need around $300 if you want to start pking right away
$300 and level 70 would be enough to trans 4 skills and have over 400 credits left over for gold, cheap artefacts, or a 5th trans skill. Or it would be just enough to trans 5 skills at level 6. During a 20% credit sale you'd have an extra 200 credits, or during a mayan crown sale you'd have 10 mayan crowns that you could sell for 200-250 credits, or more if you're lucky. You can do just fine in mid-tier combat with much less than that.
It's not too hard to tri-trans without spending any real money if you know what you're doing, especially if you have access to house/city credit sales.
It's not too hard to tri-trans without spending any real money if you know what you're doing, especially if you have access to house/city credit sales.
I just have one thing to add.
Be prepared to be frustrated after being beaten down time and time (x61) again until you finally figure out how to stop someone.
Oh, and one more thing.
Don't ever get all raged up over textdeath, it won't help you.
Be prepared to be frustrated after being beaten down time and time (x61) again until you finally figure out how to stop someone.
Oh, and one more thing.
Don't ever get all raged up over textdeath, it won't help you.
start in the arena, it's much easier
Awesome. Thanks for all your input, guys. You've made me feel much better about not having to spend any actual cash.
Believe me, though. I don't rage over much, much less video-games. I've played MUDs for years, and years, both very PvP intensive ones and RP intensive ones.
On another note, though, one question has yet to be answered:
Which is the best race to play as a Jester?
Believe me, though. I don't rage over much, much less video-games. I've played MUDs for years, and years, both very PvP intensive ones and RP intensive ones.
On another note, though, one question has yet to be answered:
Which is the best race to play as a Jester?
Anything but goddamn furball.
Grook, you need the mana for bop.
QUOTE (A Jester @ Sep 15 2009, 09:09 PM)
Which is the best race to play as a Jester?
suicide;agree gives one the best race in the game if they are a jester.
I was a rajamala jester. It was pretty lolzy and easy.
I would go Satyr if I was jester again.
I would go Satyr if I was jester again.
Mhun, Rajamala, Horkval are good choices
but pesonally I'd say mhun
for:
fast fashioning and tarot, no sip penalty
but pesonally I'd say mhun
for:
fast fashioning and tarot, no sip penalty
When I was learning combat as a jester I was a satyr. There is no better feeling than locking someone down and headstomping them out.
As Jester I like to start off with maxing out bad mojo and cursed ground.
For items, you want to get a bottle if you're going mid, or maybe marchers and 3-4 mana potions if you're taking a side.
For mid game killing, try to start off with cursed ground, then follow up with your stun, then bad mojo. And if they're trying to fight back, use your ult.
For items, you want to get a bottle if you're going mid, or maybe marchers and 3-4 mana potions if you're taking a side.
For mid game killing, try to start off with cursed ground, then follow up with your stun, then bad mojo. And if they're trying to fight back, use your ult.
You sound like you're describing some rip off version of dota.
QUOTE (Rynn @ Sep 15 2009, 10:10 PM)
Anything but goddamn furball.
*meow* *purr* *groom*
QUOTE (Boz @ Sep 16 2009, 04:45 PM)
QUOTE (Rynn @ Sep 15 2009, 10:10 PM)
Anything but goddamn furball.
*meow* *purr* *groom*
Would probably get modded, so Here.
QUOTE (Cooper @ Sep 16 2009, 07:22 AM)
You sound like you're describing some rip off version of dota.
Heroes of Newerth. What Dota has always aspired to be. Basically some of the dota creators went off and made the exact same game on its own platform. Google it, open beta's starting soon.
the original DotA Allstars (Guinsoo I believe) is working on LoL. I don't know what Eul (The original DotA) creator is doing
Yeah, I think it was some of more the recent mappers/coders of Dota who went with HoN. LoL was pretty cool, but feels different from Dota. HoN is a near exact replica (aside from different item and hero names) with better and smoother graphics.
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