I am in the market for buy a system but who's to go for?

Any suggestions

Vadi's is supported constantly. Hathrael's is not supported and is buggy. Hathrael quit and Arelas rarely comes around anymore.

vadi

I tried Vadi's - it's good, always up to date, but code is unaccessible. You don't need it anyway.

I tried Hathrael's. And these are my impressions:

- I knew Hathrael only wanted to sell 5-6 copies - he told it in Tyrandiel's room quite loudly and OOCly to everyone present (Saadya being a hidden serpent). Half of it was in Dutch or whatever goddamn language that is which ejects a lot of spittle. After selling a few copies, he left it unfinished.
- I bought the system because, unlike Vadi's, you can dissect it, check coding, play with it, etc.
- problem is, it sucks

- it screws up colors somehow. I guess that's what Hathrael likes his color scheme so we must like it too.
- it takes control over your character. No no no no, you don't need to know what afflictions you got, I got that covered for you, and I'll gag it, move along, it thinks.
- no no no, you don't need to know which and how many defences you have at a moment, I got that covered for you.
- there's a button to switch off gagging but it turns itself on again
- any upstart serpent with one (1) illusion can destroy you even if you use monk's system and monks have fitness. Kalmia and gecko dstab + anorexia illusion. Manual it off.
- then you die
- if you die in arena, it thinks you're still alive so it freaks out and you lose control and herbs unless you spam DEF DEF DEF DIAG DIAG DIAG
- Yeah yeah I knew that, it says after a while.
- it thinks you have 3 artie pipes so you have to ask for a lighting script. If you disconnect and come back it will spam relight with every prompt line until one pipe really goes off.
- every once in a while it forgets how much stuff there is in pipes, so it starts spamming outrift and put it in pipe even though it gets the message that the pipe is full and will hold no more items. "No no no, it's empty", it thinks. So you die in a duel and drop 121 skullcap.
- sometimes a pipe does get empty, and you can spam PLIST over and over again until you give up and have to refill it
- when you do, you can PLIST all you want, it thinks the pipe is lit until you give up and light it manually with an alias of your own, preferably
- don't run into retardation (this is, I guess, why Mado likes it). Imagine a broken robot voice: smoke elmpipe, outr elm, fill elmpipe with elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, smoke elm, outr elm, fill elmpipe with elm
- you get out of retardation, look above. Type RESET AEON.
- if you're a monk and you get disconnected, when you come back it will reset your defences. Default is no kai trance up. Ehhh, you'll get back to full kai in no time, pal.
- you want to run into a room and just do a combo because, let's say, they're already on ground and one leg combo will break their leg(s). No no no, first scorpion stance, that's the way to go, it says.
- ehh, who gives a damn if you're fighting a monk/shaman/jester/anything against which rebounding is useless. You need your rebounding all the time!
- same goes for other defences. You need them all.
- Ohh, but there's no mass defence option! Luckily I left one blank button for you, make your mass salve switch.

What's good about it:

- it cures (real) aeon really really good. Not sure how Vadi's handles it, but I think it's easily adjustable with remporary pausing if it doesn't.
- Hathrael left the system without intent to offer any sort of support
- there's no documentation
- conclusion it's unfinished - would not even qualify as a beta version because it was very obviously not tested with intention to improve it, but to show off its good side in precalculated situations and against players who don't really fight all that much - only in an occasional rampage, if at all (Semcath).

- Arelas, I've no idea why you took it over, but you obviously gave up as well because a few questions and one log I sent you was not answered - I of course understand, you have better things to do at the moment than take care of a crippled bastard child. It can be fixed, of course.

This doesn't cover it all, only off the top of my head.

Edit: What do you mean, you want manual parrying? You think you're smart or something?
Edit2: monk version takes over these buttons: END, HOME, PgUp, PgDown, and switching between I guess primary and secondary target... whatever it is... is done by ctrl+shift+end (these things I accidentally use to manipulate and select the text in command line I want to copy or cut). No, use mouse, it says. I had to change macros, not hard, but not everyone wants to play with it.

Well Well Saadya

i thank you for that input. It seems like you might have a little hidden anemosity toward Hath's system. heh.

I suppose my mind is made up then as to what im going to do.

I did laugh. I'd probably get Vadisys or something since there's no way you can get into anything without a system these days, then I'd use what you see as a template to start building your own system. The problem with mass distributed system is if someone figures out how to break one person, he's broken them all.

rofl

Need I say something about herb balance curing priority? Here's how it is:
Priority is always bloodroot. After bloodroot, afflictions cured by kelp. Then goldenseal, then bellwort, then ginseng, then ash, then lobelia.

No no, it's not the system, It's potentially quite good. It's not that I wasted what... what's the worth of 70 credits? Small cash. I went back to using and improving my own system (and I stole some triggers from Hath's). It's not Arelas either, definitely not, he's a nice guy and all. It's just Hathrael. Insolent Dutch git.

Please keep in mind I warned EVERYONE here MULTIPLE times about this. I told you it was going to happen.

Should make it open source then now, so we can all play with Hath's system

Vadi's is great for good curing. The only problem is that it's so good and so widespread that some top fighters know how to get around it with illusions or whatnot. Most of that you can fix yourself with some basic, crude work arounds---at least I do. I can't code, never been able to code, nor do I have the time to learn and I do okay. It'll give you a chance to work on your offense.

Please. I wanna loot the parrying system

From a log I saw, it parries the opposite limb that the opponent just hit (or tried to). So if they hit left arm, it parries right arm. If that is what it is doing, it's really not that complicated; it's just taking advantage of people expecting to run into Vadi's autoparrying (they hit left arm, you parry left arm).

I could be completely wrong though. *shrug*

I duelled Kandor once and managed to manually predict his parry 6 times in a row before he one shotted me with a standing axkick. Back in the day.

Manually parrying/guarding is best. Especially now that you can dare to move your parrying/guarding from your head when fighting monks!

I checked the code. It parries a random leg based on the last limb attacked. If head or torso are attacked, it parries a random body part minus arms. There's also a rather silly, fatal flaw in it. You can't parry arms.

poor mounted knights that can't keep up an offense

This would suggest otherwise.

Since when can you not parry arms?

The biggest problem with Vadi is you can't customize it yourself, but have to get Vadi to do it, and if he doesn't want to do it, it won't happen. Luckily he's rather willing to help.

That problem isn't there with Hathraels as you can dissect/customize as you want

So, which would you prefer? A radio you can dissect and change, or a 32" LCD TV you can't open and mess with?

Who says you can't open an LCD TV and mess with it. All you need is a screw driver...

I didn't say you couldn't mess with one, I'm saying getting one that somehow you -can't- mess with.

the radio is more fun, even if the LCD is more efficient

Uh I meant if they have the system and someone targets their arms to stop them attacking

With Vadi you can always "vconfig_haveparry no" and handle the parrying yourself, yes?

you vconfig_haveparry yes then TF PARRY to turn off auto parry.This allows you to use the inbuilt aliases which are pretty handy (PLL PTT PH PRL PRA PLA) and it will automatically parry what you want when you can.

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