revolg
Sep 3 2009, 12:07 AM
If Shallam is to the South of Delos, why does the SE cloud exit go to Delos and the E cloud exit go to Shallam?
EDIT: for that matter, Hashan and Eleusis is wrong too. Please fix, I lose sleep over this.
Soludra
Sep 3 2009, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 2 2009, 05:07 PM)

If Shallam is to the South of Delos, why does the SE cloud exit go to Delos and the E cloud exit go to Shallam?
EDIT: for that matter, Hashan and Eleusis is wrong too. Please fix, I lose sleep over this.
Holy cow,
this is serious! Someone's lost sleep!
But really... I don't really care one way or another whether this is fixed, although ICly it does seem strange. Would be nice, I guess...
I don't have wings, though, so my opinion probably doesn't count
Sena
Sep 3 2009, 12:37 AM
Delos is to the southeast, and there are air currents to the east that carry you further south to Shallam. There are similar air currents that carry you in different directions than the clouds exits indicate for Hashan and Eleusis as well.
Cooper
Sep 3 2009, 12:41 AM
The real thing that needs to be updated with clouds is where the exits drop you off. The high clouds have multiple exits that are 10-15 rooms away from another clouds exit.
Saadya
Sep 3 2009, 12:54 AM
Yeah. Eagle clouds need to drop you off in the middle of bloody nowhere, so that you have to spend 2000 credits to have something useful.
Whisper: shut up!
Mulkerrin
Sep 3 2009, 03:03 AM
Well, it would be nice if some of the exits weren't directly within defendable territory, given that they'd only need to be moved 1 room in order to be out.
Laorir
Sep 3 2009, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 2 2009, 08:07 PM)

If Shallam is to the South of Delos, why does the SE cloud exit go to Delos and the E cloud exit go to Shallam?
EDIT: for that matter, Hashan and Eleusis is wrong too. Please fix, I lose sleep over this.
Yea, there's a lot of things like that. Shallam sewer exits are really screwed up. Enter the grate on Shallam Road and go N E and you're at the sewer exit in the medina. Enter the grate on the west part of Fish Street go NW and 5W and you end up at the Zanizbaar Street sewer grate.
Danith
Sep 3 2009, 03:16 AM
You people do realize that you're arguing the logistics of a magical item in a fantasy game that takes you into the clouds and lets you come back down to the ground (almost) wherever you'd like, right?
Okay, just checking.
Gorlasintan
Sep 3 2009, 03:19 AM
QUOTE (Mulkerrin @ Sep 2 2009, 10:03 PM)

Well, it would be nice if some of the exits weren't directly within defendable territory, given that they'd only need to be moved 1 room in order to be out.
Which clouds exits drop into defendable territory? None of the duanathar(a) exits do.
Cooper
Sep 3 2009, 03:20 AM
Yes, and the argument is still valid!
And, you realize you are arguing with the people who are arguing the logistics of a magical item in a fantasy game that takes you into the clouds and lets you come back down to the ground (almost) wherever you'd like, right?
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Sep 2 2009, 10:19 PM)

QUOTE (Mulkerrin @ Sep 2 2009, 10:03 PM)

Well, it would be nice if some of the exits weren't directly within defendable territory, given that they'd only need to be moved 1 room in order to be out.
Which clouds exits drop into defendable territory? None of the duanathar(a) exits do.
He's probably thinking of the gare exits.
Gorlasintan
Sep 3 2009, 03:22 AM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Sep 2 2009, 10:20 PM)

QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Sep 2 2009, 10:19 PM)

QUOTE (Mulkerrin @ Sep 2 2009, 10:03 PM)

Well, it would be nice if some of the exits weren't directly within defendable territory, given that they'd only need to be moved 1 room in order to be out.
Which clouds exits drop into defendable territory? None of the duanathar(a) exits do.
He's probably thinking of the gare exits.
That makes more sense, but I don't see gare being brought up at all elsewhere...
revolg
Sep 3 2009, 04:09 AM
JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
Dusty
Sep 3 2009, 04:10 AM
Too late to change now!
Manifest
Sep 3 2009, 06:13 AM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 3 2009, 05:09 AM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
lol'd
Trici
Sep 3 2009, 06:18 AM
QUOTE (Manifest @ Sep 3 2009, 01:13 AM)

QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 3 2009, 05:09 AM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
lol'd really effing hard.
Veldrin
Sep 3 2009, 08:37 AM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Sep 3 2009, 02:41 AM)

The real thing that needs to be updated with clouds is where the exits drop you off. The high clouds have multiple exits that are 10-15 rooms away from another clouds exit.
far as I was told the high above exists lead directly to some room that had relevance for the old landmarking system
Sidonia
Sep 3 2009, 10:42 AM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 3 2009, 05:09 AM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.

Blatantly ripping off what I said to Dartega a few days ago.
Drauka
Sep 3 2009, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 2 2009, 08:07 PM)

If Shallam is to the South of Delos, why does the SE cloud exit go to Delos and the E cloud exit go to Shallam?
EDIT: for that matter, Hashan and Eleusis is wrong too. Please fix, I lose sleep over this.
"magic"
Santar
Sep 3 2009, 01:27 PM
And, you realize you are arguing with the people who are arguing with the people who are arguing the logistics of a magical item in a fantasy game that takes you into the clouds and lets you come back down to the ground (almost) wherever you'd like, right?
Also, fighting people like Cain at NoT is pretty hilarious considering high above wings. You wall him in so he doesn't JPK constantly, and then he starts doing duanatharan/jpk.
Saadya
Sep 3 2009, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Santar @ Sep 3 2009, 03:27 PM)

And, you realize you are arguing with the people who are arguing with the people who are arguing the logistics of a magical item in a fantasy game that takes you into the clouds and lets you come back down to the ground (almost) wherever you'd like, right?
Also, fighting people like Cain at NoT is pretty hilarious considering high above wings. You wall him in so he doesn't JPK constantly, and then he starts doing duanatharan/jpk.
So fight at some other place in which another area is one room away.
Santar
Sep 3 2009, 01:50 PM
It wasn't a complaint. It was speculative humor.
Gorlasintan
Sep 3 2009, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 2 2009, 11:09 PM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
Terminal velocity in Achaea is about the velocity you reach falling out of a chair.
Mulkerrin
Sep 3 2009, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Sep 2 2009, 08:20 PM)

Yes, and the argument is still valid!
And, you realize you are arguing with the people who are arguing the logistics of a magical item in a fantasy game that takes you into the clouds and lets you come back down to the ground (almost) wherever you'd like, right?
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Sep 2 2009, 10:19 PM)

QUOTE (Mulkerrin @ Sep 2 2009, 10:03 PM)

Well, it would be nice if some of the exits weren't directly within defendable territory, given that they'd only need to be moved 1 room in order to be out.
Which clouds exits drop into defendable territory? None of the duanathar(a) exits do.
He's probably thinking of the gare exits.
You're probably right, I don't actually have a pair of Wings myself. I guess I just assumed they were similar to the Gare exits. That and the announce about Catapults on Clouds made me think they exited closer.
rledaman
Sep 7 2009, 06:40 AM
that announce was because of a trap on clouds throwing you through a particular exit, whereupon you hit another string of traps in successive rooms which brought you to death at the gates.
The problem was simply that clouds is traveled so extensively. Such trap chains have been made before, even stringing from one city directly across sapience to another.
Trevize
Sep 7 2009, 07:10 AM
Don't see how this matters, really.
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 3 2009, 12:09 AM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
Imagine DFA from clouds.
Synbios
Sep 8 2009, 06:38 AM
QUOTE (revolg @ Sep 3 2009, 12:09 PM)

JPK from a clouds exit should be an insta-kill too, given the higher velocity.
Walking innocently through NoT, minding his own business, when suddenly:
Dyzanru
Sep 8 2009, 06:27 PM
uhh you guys do know there is an IDEA command in game for stuff like this right?
Sena
Sep 8 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (Dyzanru @ Sep 8 2009, 02:27 PM)

uhh you guys do know there is an IDEA command in game for stuff like this right?
You do know that the only reason for this section's existence is as an alternative to the IDEA command, right?
Rynn
Sep 8 2009, 07:17 PM
Since someone mentioned it:
Is the IDEA command in game given anywhere near as much consideration as an idea posted in this subforum? I've submitted several ideas in game, and received absolutely zero feedback. Are ideas submitted in game just filed away and never looked at again? I realize that my ideas may not have been the best, but I want -some- feedback, dammit.
Sena
Sep 8 2009, 07:20 PM
Things have been implemented based on ideas submitted in-game, and there are a few things on The List that are from the IDEA command instead of the forums. It seems that ideas suggested here are given more consideration though, and done more quickly.
It also allows for suggestions from other players, so that an idea that may not have been considered on it's own could evolve into a good idea.
Drauka
Sep 8 2009, 09:26 PM
Forums voices are a minority of the player base though, just the loudest.
edit: Maybe the loudest pay the most amount of credits.
Sena
Sep 8 2009, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (Drauka @ Sep 8 2009, 05:26 PM)

Forums voices are a minority of the player base though, just the loudest.
edit: Maybe the loudest pay the most amount of credits.
A vocal minority of the playerbase is still a lot more input than you'd get from submitting an idea in the game.
Trevize
Sep 9 2009, 06:07 AM
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 8 2009, 05:29 PM)

A vocal minority of the playerbase is still a lot more input than you'd get from submitting an idea in the game.

*nod* That's it. It's nothing to do with how many, just that they're getting feedback. When someone hands out surveys, not everyone fills them out. Everyone could, but generally a minority do. That minority though is how they decide, or at least part of it, to do some things.
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