Lana
Aug 27 2009, 05:50 PM
This was originally taken out before the advent of Rapture due to a bug in the original programming language. Could this be brought back again, ten years later? Announce 360, 361, 375, 394 and 396 talk about it being removed, and the "fix" of the day was to libit bets to one, since multiple bets kept crashing Achaea.
Santar
Aug 27 2009, 07:30 PM
This could very easily be used to gain infinite amounts of gold with little thought process if implemented.
Lana
Aug 27 2009, 07:33 PM
RL casinos managed to figure out a way to prevent that... Shouldn't be too hard to prevent that in Achaea as well. Besides, I can't think of a way; all bets still carry the same odds, so odds-wise, it should be the same as placing many bets over many rounds.
If there is a way, do share so we can figure out a way to prevent it.
Manifest
Aug 27 2009, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (Santar @ Aug 27 2009, 07:30 PM)

This could very easily be used to gain infinite amounts of gold with little thought process if implemented.
You should probably inform all the casinos in the world of this, then.
Sena
Aug 27 2009, 07:58 PM
Even if you can be guaranteed to win by betting on every possibility, you'll never make a profit that way. You won't even break even.
Say you bet 1 gold on each individual number. That would cost you 38 gold. It has to land on one of them, so you'll always win. The prize for winning would be 35 gold plus the winning bet. Or, maybe you don't bet on all of them, just a lot to increase your chances. You bet 1 gold on 30 of the 38 numbers. You have a ~79% chance of winning, getting you 35 gold. On average, that's 27-28 gold for every 30 you bet, so you're still likely to lose gold that way.
The odds are set up so that no matter how many people place how many bets, the average will still be in favor of the house. Making multiple bets increases your chances of winning, but also means you'll lose more gold on average.
Saadya
Aug 27 2009, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Santar @ Aug 27 2009, 09:30 PM)

This could very easily be used to gain infinite amounts of gold with little thought process if implemented.
Santar's got a system that always wins. Oh I got one too! Just paypal me $30 and I'll send you the PDF.
Lana
Aug 27 2009, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Saadya @ Aug 27 2009, 11:09 PM)

QUOTE (Santar @ Aug 27 2009, 09:30 PM)

This could very easily be used to gain infinite amounts of gold with little thought process if implemented.
Santar's got a system that always wins. Oh I got one too! Just paypal me $30 and I'll send you the PDF.
That almost sounds too good to be true. Sure!
Drauka
Aug 27 2009, 10:07 PM
All these facts and math proofs of gambling are really ruining my luck.
berenene
Aug 27 2009, 10:35 PM
Sena
Aug 27 2009, 10:39 PM
I prefer gambling with someone else's gold.
berenene
Aug 27 2009, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (Sena @ Aug 28 2009, 08:39 AM)

I prefer gambling with someone else's gold.
Yes, but doing that you run the risk of "Eh, you slept with my cousin eh" "Nah eh, youse wrong eh" and then wind up with a chk chk boom. Replace spoken dialog as required to fit the situation.
Drauka
Aug 28 2009, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (berenene @ Aug 27 2009, 06:35 PM)

I don't have a problem with my gold being loose.
Anything I gamble I already mark off as lost. If I win, then awesome. If not, then it was already budgeted as lost.
Lana
Aug 28 2009, 08:52 PM
Any complaints about it? I don't count Santar's complaint since it likely holds no water. If there is any validity to it, Santar, now is the time to make your point before it's implemented!
Saadya
Aug 28 2009, 08:55 PM
Try to think like IRE: would it make earning gold easier? Yes? Denied.
Lana
Aug 28 2009, 08:56 PM
How would it make earning gold easier? All I can see is more bets = more losses.
skarash
Aug 28 2009, 09:06 PM
One of the pit boss's main jobs to watch out for funny business
Daes
Sep 1 2009, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (Lana @ Aug 28 2009, 01:52 PM)

Any complaints about it? I don't count Santar's complaint since it likely holds no water. If there is any validity to it, Santar, now is the time to make your point before it's implemented!
You're assuming that IRE is actually going to implement it.
Saadya
Sep 1 2009, 11:12 PM
Idea: for 1000 credits, Achaean roulette becomes European instead of American for you when you play it!
Santar
Sep 1 2009, 11:40 PM
Nevermind.
berenene
Sep 2 2009, 03:22 AM
QUOTE (Saadya @ Sep 2 2009, 09:12 AM)

Idea: for 1000 credits, Achaean roulette becomes European instead of American for you when you play it!
the difference being?
Sena
Sep 2 2009, 04:13 AM
There's no 00, which cuts the houses advantage nearly in half.
Tael
Sep 2 2009, 08:08 AM
QUOTE (Sena @ Sep 1 2009, 09:13 PM)

There's no 00, which cuts the houses advantage nearly in half.
But the house still has an advantage. So you'd be paying 1000 credits to lose. It'd be to lose less, but still.
Sena
Sep 2 2009, 09:20 AM
I just noticed I left out the apostrophe, and it's too late to edit. That's going to bug me.

Anyways, there are people who enjoy roulette already, so it would be worthwhile for them to pay credits to lose slightly less. Maybe not 1000 credits though, since that would, on average, require you to bet a total of almost 200 million gold in order for it to be worth it.
Saadya
Sep 2 2009, 11:30 AM
I was being slightly sarcastic. Hm, okay: make Achaean roulette distinctly Achaean - add another zero named '000' or 'l0l'.
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