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Traytes
so, fighting a sentinel as an apostate, ive been wracking my brains as to how to beat them with their passive transfixing. killing ents really serves no real purpose against anyone decent because they just resummon. unblinding and reblinding would not really work because of throwing me off salve and herb balance too much, and they do have that axe. usually i would try and work on a way to stop them transfixing, but because the ent does it passively, i dont know what to do here. someone may have already asked, but if anyone has any helpful advice, I would appreciate it. thanks
Saadya
Do you cowardice the butterfly?
Traytes
i thought of that too but anybody i would be fighting would catch it and bring it back, that is definitely a possibility, but it faces the same problems as killing it would, albeit perhaps a bit easier to slip by
Saadya
Butterflies also give dizziness, not only transfixation. So every once in a while you'll just have to cowardice it again. Just as people fighting apostates will want to waste an attack to make you temporarily blind.
Mymyc
QUOTE (Traytes @ Aug 19 2009, 09:03 AM) *
so, fighting a sentinel as an apostate, ive been wracking my brains as to how to beat them with their passive transfixing. killing ents really serves no real purpose against anyone decent because they just resummon. unblinding and reblinding would not really work because of throwing me off salve and herb balance too much, and they do have that axe. usually i would try and work on a way to stop them transfixing, but because the ent does it passively, i dont know what to do here. someone may have already asked, but if anyone has any helpful advice, I would appreciate it. thanks


Catch it with a butterfly net! Is it possible?
Saadya
No, Mymyc, it isn't.
kray
how about you try to make the butterfly attack them? hmmmm.....
Entaro
Cowardice it every time it comes into the room. They will lose momentum resummoning. Cowardice isn't a big balance loss i'm pretty sure.
Spire
Cowardice + Gravehands = Victory!

CALL ANIMALS is like 5 seconds EQ.
Santar
Apostate vs. Sentinel is the easiest fight ever.

Please go dig a hole and put your head in it if you think otherwise.
Traytes
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 19 2009, 07:50 AM) *
CALL ANIMALS is like 5 seconds EQ.


Wow, thank you Spire, thats exactly what I was looking for. nobody else could give me figures on that and there was nobody around to test it with. Appreciate it
Teg
apply epidermal to head
deadeye sentinel
eat bayberry
kyishi2
i thought you could only resummon them in the forest so if your not in the firest why not just kill it
Traytes
QUOTE (Teg @ Aug 19 2009, 09:26 AM) *
apply epidermal to head
deadeye sentinel
eat bayberry


realize, herb and salve balances differ, and if i dont have both back on when i do that, it will just be for nothing. also, my healing becomes compromised if I do this to be sure i have both back on
Semla
QUOTE (kyishi2 @ Aug 19 2009, 09:16 AM) *
i thought you could only resummon them in the forest so if your not in the firest why not just kill it



Im pretty sure that only the Golem for Druids and Sylvans works like that.. Becuase even they can summon thier other ents anywhere. Call new swarm for example calls a swarm of bees to them as long as they have a hive in thier grove. plus the waterweird and Efreeti for Sylvans.

Also do the cowardice thing or disloyalty on player if you have the ability to do so. But it sounds like cowardice is he better way to go.
Spire
Sentinels can only summon animals in the forest.
Dinkybarrel
If you're talking about arena combat then yes, Sentinels or any class with super annoying ents are a bugger to beat. :/ But out of arena, the butterfly is easy to kill, you would probably spend less time killing it than repeatedly cowardicing.
Teg
QUOTE (Traytes @ Aug 19 2009, 05:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Teg @ Aug 19 2009, 09:26 AM) *
apply epidermal to head
deadeye sentinel
eat bayberry


realize, herb and salve balances differ, and if i dont have both back on when i do that, it will just be for nothing. also, my healing becomes compromised if I do this to be sure i have both back on
Nothing is perfect, but by doing this you cut down the time you are vulnerable to transfix by a lot, this was what Wulfen used to do

also, cowardice the butterfly
Entaro
QUOTE (Teg @ Aug 20 2009, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Traytes @ Aug 19 2009, 05:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Teg @ Aug 19 2009, 09:26 AM) *
apply epidermal to head
deadeye sentinel
eat bayberry


realize, herb and salve balances differ, and if i dont have both back on when i do that, it will just be for nothing. also, my healing becomes compromised if I do this to be sure i have both back on
Nothing is perfect, but by doing this you cut down the time you are vulnerable to transfix by a lot, this was what Wulfen used to do

also, cowardice the butterfly


I don't really think Traytes has the resources to constantly eat bayberry and constantly apply epidermal. Hell I'm a forestal leader and I wouldn't be able to afford that.
Teg
did bayberry cost skyrocket or something?

Otherwise you are paying what 40 gold/deadeye? That's not that much more than paying for dsls, and you are gonna be 1v1ing sentinels a minority of your pk time

PK is expensive, deal with it
Cooper
Some classes are intended to be a counter to other classes. Apostates are arguably the strongest 1v1 PK class in the game. You have a perfectly acceptable way of getting around this - Teg pointed it out pretty well. You also do not have to deadeyes every attack, you know.
Whitesnake
QUOTE (Teg @ Aug 21 2009, 09:33 AM) *
PK is expensive

Whitesnake
Also, Weaving should give passive transfix happy.gif
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 06:10 PM) *
Also, Weaving should give passive transfix and execute should not suck happy.gif

Whitesnake
I like Execute as it is. =/ What do you want, for it to be a whip-cleave or something?


Or maybe stab them in the eyes repeatedly with our dirk until they die.


Oh hell, screw it all...let's take the insta-kill from that one PS1 game that was like.. medieval arcade fighting setting and whatnot similar to Soul Calibur's style. The rogue (I can't remember his name either) just went to town an murdered the - out of everyone in about 6 button pushes.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 24 2009, 10:07 PM) *
I like Execute as it is. =/ What do you want, for it to be a whip-cleave or something?


....yes?

EDIT: To all.
Whitesnake
I took too long editing that post =/
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