I'm a big fan of sending letters and sealing them with wax. Is this annoying to others?
I always thought it was awesome, especially if sealed (instead of a message or tell). I remember never getting letter replies, or a reply at all. Is this just not common practice?
I normally send them for "official" business and not just a "what's up".
Full Version: Sending Letters?
Quoren uses letters for official business (diplomatic communiques, missives to denizens, telling people that they've done a no-no and are now in time-out, et cetera), though I haven't enough credits to buy a sealing ring or codify a coat of arms. I wish. 
EDIT: Especially now that they installed the messenger denizen at Delos, to deliver letters to denizens. Much love for that one.
EDIT: Especially now that they installed the messenger denizen at Delos, to deliver letters to denizens. Much love for that one.
Not annoying at all!
Kaevan replied with a sealed letter to a message I sent. It's a great way to make a point. 
Kaevan is a paper-pusher.
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 18 2009, 11:18 PM) 
Kaevan is a paper-pusher.
Only because you hate paper.
I do not hate paper. :<
EDIT: I do, however, hate paperwork.
EDIT: I do, however, hate paperwork.
I can't imagine why it'd be annoying. I seal letters...if anything, I wish there was more of a notification about getting a sealed letter.
eg: "a delicately embossed letter sealed with the arms of Palanor. SO KIDS KNOW, RIGHT?
eg: "a delicately embossed letter sealed with the arms of Palanor. SO KIDS KNOW, RIGHT?
QUOTE (Palanor @ Aug 19 2009, 04:27 AM)
I can't imagine why it'd be annoying. I seal letters...if anything, I wish there was more of a notification about getting a sealed letter.
eg: "a delicately embossed letter sealed with the arms of Palanor. SO KIDS KNOW, RIGHT?
eg: "a delicately embossed letter sealed with the arms of Palanor. SO KIDS KNOW, RIGHT?
That would be awesome, maybe even a minor skill from Vision? The problem with letters is that people always don't notice, especially if they are in battle.
I prefer letters to messages, myself.
As a rule of thumb, I use letters for IC things, and messages for OOC things. The only exception is if I'm close with someone-- I'm friends with Imyrr, and we've worked together in the House for years, so instead of writing him a letter informing him that I've finished a project, I'll just shoot him a quick message. I think of messages in this sense as the Victorian equivalent of dropping off a visiting card with the relevant information on it as opposed to sending an invitation-- something that is acceptable, by the rules of etiquette, only between the closest of friends.
Speaking of, visiting cards would be awesome. Hint, hint.
Speaking of, visiting cards would be awesome. Hint, hint.
I think letters add a lot to RP.
I wish everything were as simple.
I wish everything were as simple.
Ya know, I love the idea of letters also. I usually send a welcoming letter to all new novices entering the house. I have a stationary kit and I use it regularly, however, the only downfall to letters is they are so easily missed. It seems redundant, but I think it would be a good idea if you would get some kind of a reminder (like for elections or referendums) when you log in reminding you that you have unread letters. I would use them more often if I knew it wouldn't get lost in a busy inventory.
Hmm, that's a good point. Would be nice to have a LETTERLIST command or something. 
I like getting letters. Plus it gives hypnosis a point besides theft for money...I could be in yer inventory, reading yer mailz 
Would make things more realistic, messages and party always felt like cheating to me
Would make things more realistic, messages and party always felt like cheating to me
QUOTE (Delphinus @ Aug 19 2009, 09:03 AM)
I prefer letters to messages, myself.
I do too, but I end up sending messages because I feel that people will often miss letters. I know that I've probably missed a few in combat spam and stuff and don't get the message because I don't do II LETTER as often as I do RM. Maybe I should alias it to be included.
Maybe the IRE should make it where you get a MSG if you get a letter?
I see messages as completely OOC, I don't see how there is even a more IC way to justify the MSG system. TELLs are even stretching it a bit, IMO.
I see messages as completely OOC, I don't see how there is even a more IC way to justify the MSG system. TELLs are even stretching it a bit, IMO.
Nah, tells are just like channels. Telepathy and all. Messages are where the stretch comes in, but if you really wanted to you could justify it. However, letters are far better in that regard. I just wish they were easier to deal with.
letters might be more popular if:
1) notifications of receiving a letter was made via system msg.
2) different priced letters, maybe limited by size (to make it easier for people to use that may be limited on resources) such as 1G per line, with a base price of 20g or something similar.
1) notifications of receiving a letter was made via system msg.
2) different priced letters, maybe limited by size (to make it easier for people to use that may be limited on resources) such as 1G per line, with a base price of 20g or something similar.
I respect you wishing to remain IC with the usage of letters over messages, however, this just isn't a fantastic idea. Especially as a Minister, you receive an absolute crap load of messages each time you log in. They're much easier to organize, briefly glance through, and respond to. As it's been stated, I prefer letters from proteges and aides when discussing "official" business, but that's about it. They are always a nice touch, though..and I always do enjoy receiving a letter much more than a boring message.
QUOTE (Manifest @ Aug 19 2009, 10:57 PM)
I respect you wishing to remain IC with the usage of letters over messages, however, this just isn't a fantastic idea. Especially as a Minister, you receive an absolute crap load of messages each time you log in. They're much easier to organize, briefly glance through, and respond to. As it's been stated, I prefer letters from proteges and aides when discussing "official" business, but that's about it. They are always a nice touch, though..and I always do enjoy receiving a letter much more than a boring message.
That makes sense. There isn't an easy way to manage many letters.
QUOTE (Drauka @ Aug 19 2009, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE (Manifest @ Aug 19 2009, 10:57 PM)
I respect you wishing to remain IC with the usage of letters over messages, however, this just isn't a fantastic idea. Especially as a Minister, you receive an absolute crap load of messages each time you log in. They're much easier to organize, briefly glance through, and respond to. As it's been stated, I prefer letters from proteges and aides when discussing "official" business, but that's about it. They are always a nice touch, though..and I always do enjoy receiving a letter much more than a boring message.
That makes sense. There isn't an easy way to manage many letters.
Oddly enough, I find it a bit easier to keep track of letters. I cannot count the number of times I have accidentally forgot to preserve a message I was going to attend to a bit later on only to find that I had deleted it.
QUOTE (Kaevan @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 PM)
I cannot count the number of times I have accidentally forgot to preserve a message I was going to attend to a bit later on only to find that I had deleted it.
I have an easy solution to this problem.
I used to mail the heads of contract targets to the hirer in a wax sealed letter.
All good
All good
QUOTE (Kaevan @ Aug 19 2009, 11:27 PM)
Oddly enough, I find it a bit easier to keep track of letters. I cannot count the number of times I have accidentally forgot to preserve a message I was going to attend to a bit later on only to find that I had deleted it.
What is this "deleting" thing you are talking about? 
Your last message is number 13525.
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Your last message is number 13525.
You should delete all of them during a raid.
QUOTE (Rynn @ Aug 20 2009, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Your last message is number 13525.
You should delete all of them during a raid.
It will only delete in batches of a couple hundred or so. You will get a message like "Due to aeonic problems only messages 1-114 (or something) were deleted."
I think the cap is 1000, not 100.
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 11:21 AM)
Your last message is number 13525.
Your last message is number 3911.
You have 470 messages.
I just delete all but the most recent. I want to see how high I can get it
QUOTE (Soludra @ Aug 20 2009, 03:14 PM)
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 11:21 AM)
Your last message is number 13525.
Your last message is number 3911.
You have 470 messages.
I just delete all but the most recent. I want to see how high I can get it
How do you have so few messages...Your character has 50 years on mine...
Your last message is number 8715.
QUOTE
3075h, 4125m, 14275e, 17650w ex-[15:39:49]msgs full
No messages found.
3075h, 4125m, 14275e, 17650w ex-[15:39:51]
No messages found.
3075h, 4125m, 14275e, 17650w ex-[15:39:51]
What if letters just worked like messages that could be stolen, and which had a delivery emote when they were received instead of just a system message?
QUOTE (Rynn @ Aug 20 2009, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Your last message is number 13525.
You should delete all of them during a raid.
Considering it would lag the entirety of Achaea, this wouldn't really do anything beyond making people a bit panicky.
QUOTE (Semla @ Aug 20 2009, 01:42 PM)
QUOTE (Rynn @ Aug 20 2009, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Your last message is number 13525.
You should delete all of them during a raid.
It will only delete in batches of a couple hundred or so. You will get a message like "Due to aeonic problems only messages 1-114 (or something) were deleted."
There are ways to delete all of one's messages simultaneously.
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (Rynn @ Aug 20 2009, 01:40 PM)
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Aug 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Your last message is number 13525.
You should delete all of them during a raid.
Considering it would lag the entirety of Achaea, this wouldn't really do anything beyond making people a bit panicky.
I can tell you are not as mischievous as I.
I don't have a seal so, ignoring that part of the thread, I much prefer to send letters unless I'm somewhat close to the person, ICly or OOCly, and only if they send the first message. I actually get nervous sending messages, otherwise.
Unless, of course, someone just won the artisanals/bardics. I like to congratulate the winners so ignore that rule when they're not in the realm, haha.
Unless, of course, someone just won the artisanals/bardics. I like to congratulate the winners so ignore that rule when they're not in the realm, haha.
I use mine when I hand out the occasional gift voucher for an enchantment. I use it in conjunction with a letter from my stationary kit, that way I know it was a letter I sent. But I will also ues them when sending regular letters as I like the idea of sealing with my CoA
I've sent a letter once or twice to store owners to tell them I was pleased with their wares. I have to agree with others, it does add much more RP to sending information to another person. However I do wish that singeing a letter wasn't so spammy. It almost has no purpose whatsoever. Instead they usually go to the local humgii.
The kit available for 1 Mayan Crown is pretty awesome.
Produces letters on it's own.
I have 3 Mayan Crowns I'll give to people for free if you want this kit, just message me and I'll send to the first three people.
QUOTE
Slightly larger than a standard letter and only an inch in depth, this lightweight box is crafted from the delicate rosewood of the Khulian jungle. Covering its top surface is an elaborate relief of interlaced vines centred around the image of a
dove, its unfurled wings detailed to each individual feather. A hidden compartment filled with ink is incorporated into the design, and a discreet groove along one side holds a small writing quill. The underside of the box is polished and
smooth, exhibiting the beauty and deep grain of the natural wood, with a single mystical rune etched in its centre. Diffuse amber light radiates from the rune, imparting a palpable aura of magic to the entire kit.
It weighs about 2 pounds and 8 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A rosewood stationery kit is holding:
"letter191375" a delicately embossed letter
"letter221458" a delicately embossed letter
"letter375715" a delicately embossed letter
"letter213465" a delicately embossed letter
"letter231207" a delicately embossed letter
You take a delicately embossed letter from a rosewood stationery kit.
Though the parchment of this letter is so thin as to be nearly transparent, it is surprisingly strong, and shimmers with a faint silken finish. A pale wash of carmine colour suffuses the parchment, the slight irregularity of the wash a hand-crafted,
artistic impression rather than one of carelessness. Delicate swirls decorate the margins in graceful arcs of gold and silver, framing whatever words may lie between them. In flowing script at the bottom of the letter is embossed the name
'Drauka'.
It has 10 months of usefulness left.
It weighs 1 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A delicately embossed letter is holding:
Nothing.
dove, its unfurled wings detailed to each individual feather. A hidden compartment filled with ink is incorporated into the design, and a discreet groove along one side holds a small writing quill. The underside of the box is polished and
smooth, exhibiting the beauty and deep grain of the natural wood, with a single mystical rune etched in its centre. Diffuse amber light radiates from the rune, imparting a palpable aura of magic to the entire kit.
It weighs about 2 pounds and 8 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A rosewood stationery kit is holding:
"letter191375" a delicately embossed letter
"letter221458" a delicately embossed letter
"letter375715" a delicately embossed letter
"letter213465" a delicately embossed letter
"letter231207" a delicately embossed letter
You take a delicately embossed letter from a rosewood stationery kit.
Though the parchment of this letter is so thin as to be nearly transparent, it is surprisingly strong, and shimmers with a faint silken finish. A pale wash of carmine colour suffuses the parchment, the slight irregularity of the wash a hand-crafted,
artistic impression rather than one of carelessness. Delicate swirls decorate the margins in graceful arcs of gold and silver, framing whatever words may lie between them. In flowing script at the bottom of the letter is embossed the name
'Drauka'.
It has 10 months of usefulness left.
It weighs 1 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A delicately embossed letter is holding:
Nothing.
Produces letters on it's own.
I have 3 Mayan Crowns I'll give to people for free if you want this kit, just message me and I'll send to the first three people.
QUOTE (Drauka @ Aug 24 2009, 11:33 PM)
The kit available for 1 Mayan Crown is pretty awesome.
Produces letters on it's own.
I have 3 Mayan Crowns I'll give to people for free if you want this kit, just message me and I'll send to the first three people.
QUOTE
Slightly larger than a standard letter and only an inch in depth, this lightweight box is crafted from the delicate rosewood of the Khulian jungle. Covering its top surface is an elaborate relief of interlaced vines centred around the image of a
dove, its unfurled wings detailed to each individual feather. A hidden compartment filled with ink is incorporated into the design, and a discreet groove along one side holds a small writing quill. The underside of the box is polished and
smooth, exhibiting the beauty and deep grain of the natural wood, with a single mystical rune etched in its centre. Diffuse amber light radiates from the rune, imparting a palpable aura of magic to the entire kit.
It weighs about 2 pounds and 8 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A rosewood stationery kit is holding:
"letter191375" a delicately embossed letter
"letter221458" a delicately embossed letter
"letter375715" a delicately embossed letter
"letter213465" a delicately embossed letter
"letter231207" a delicately embossed letter
You take a delicately embossed letter from a rosewood stationery kit.
Though the parchment of this letter is so thin as to be nearly transparent, it is surprisingly strong, and shimmers with a faint silken finish. A pale wash of carmine colour suffuses the parchment, the slight irregularity of the wash a hand-crafted,
artistic impression rather than one of carelessness. Delicate swirls decorate the margins in graceful arcs of gold and silver, framing whatever words may lie between them. In flowing script at the bottom of the letter is embossed the name
'Drauka'.
It has 10 months of usefulness left.
It weighs 1 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A delicately embossed letter is holding:
Nothing.
dove, its unfurled wings detailed to each individual feather. A hidden compartment filled with ink is incorporated into the design, and a discreet groove along one side holds a small writing quill. The underside of the box is polished and
smooth, exhibiting the beauty and deep grain of the natural wood, with a single mystical rune etched in its centre. Diffuse amber light radiates from the rune, imparting a palpable aura of magic to the entire kit.
It weighs about 2 pounds and 8 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A rosewood stationery kit is holding:
"letter191375" a delicately embossed letter
"letter221458" a delicately embossed letter
"letter375715" a delicately embossed letter
"letter213465" a delicately embossed letter
"letter231207" a delicately embossed letter
You take a delicately embossed letter from a rosewood stationery kit.
Though the parchment of this letter is so thin as to be nearly transparent, it is surprisingly strong, and shimmers with a faint silken finish. A pale wash of carmine colour suffuses the parchment, the slight irregularity of the wash a hand-crafted,
artistic impression rather than one of carelessness. Delicate swirls decorate the margins in graceful arcs of gold and silver, framing whatever words may lie between them. In flowing script at the bottom of the letter is embossed the name
'Drauka'.
It has 10 months of usefulness left.
It weighs 1 ounce(s).
It bears the distinctive mark of Drauka.
A delicately embossed letter is holding:
Nothing.
Produces letters on it's own.
I have 3 Mayan Crowns I'll give to people for free if you want this kit, just message me and I'll send to the first three people.
I personally prefer the olivewood kit to the rosewood
Sorry, but the stationary kit is pretty useless unless you send 28376234 letters.
It only pays for itself 100g per letter. 1 crown can sell for like 20 credits today (minimum).
Using 5k as a minumum, you sell 20 credits and get 100,000 gold.
100,000\100=1,000 letters you have to send before it pays for itself.
The only reason I bought it was because for me, it's already paid itself off.
It only pays for itself 100g per letter. 1 crown can sell for like 20 credits today (minimum).
Using 5k as a minumum, you sell 20 credits and get 100,000 gold.
100,000\100=1,000 letters you have to send before it pays for itself.
The only reason I bought it was because for me, it's already paid itself off.
I didn't buy mine so I could have it pay for itself, I bought mine so I could add a little personal touch to the letters I send. 20 credits for a crown? Please, I got 80 for mine
QUOTE (Jonathin @ Aug 26 2009, 10:07 AM)
Sorry, but the stationary kit is pretty useless unless you send 28376234 letters.
It only pays for itself 100g per letter. 1 crown can sell for like 20 credits today (minimum).
Using 5k as a minumum, you sell 20 credits and get 100,000 gold.
100,000\100=1,000 letters you have to send before it pays for itself.
The only reason I bought it was because for me, it's already paid itself off.
It only pays for itself 100g per letter. 1 crown can sell for like 20 credits today (minimum).
Using 5k as a minumum, you sell 20 credits and get 100,000 gold.
100,000\100=1,000 letters you have to send before it pays for itself.
The only reason I bought it was because for me, it's already paid itself off.
Value is relative, especially when it comes to specialty items. Normal letters stink, only slightly better than normal letters is the letters available in the speciality paper shops, like the one in Hashan.
It's like saying no one should pay a lot of money for art, you can buy all the materials yourself for under $30. Yet, the thing is... you're not paying for the materials. I only really evaluate functional worth for functional items that are used in bashing or combat, as the value if clearly defined. A buckawns or regen ring has a clear value, where-as a artifacted book of poetry's value is relative.
Plus, the crown coins were "free", so I gave them away. I'm a fan of supporting specialty items IRE introduces, it adds from flair (no pun intended) to the game.
QUOTE (Drauka @ Aug 26 2009, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (Jonathin @ Aug 26 2009, 10:07 AM)
Plus, the crown coins were "free", so I gave them away. I'm a fan of supporting specialty items IRE introduces, it adds from flair (no pun intended) to the game.
So buy an egg and a brazier. It's a better buy if you're looking to waste your money.
Charity is admirable, and letter kits are quieter.
QUOTE (Jonathin @ Aug 28 2009, 03:58 AM)
QUOTE (Drauka @ Aug 26 2009, 12:19 PM)
QUOTE (Jonathin @ Aug 26 2009, 10:07 AM)
Plus, the crown coins were "free", so I gave them away. I'm a fan of supporting specialty items IRE introduces, it adds from flair (no pun intended) to the game.
So buy an egg and a brazier. It's a better buy if you're looking to waste your money.
What do the eggs and brazier do? Hard to tell from probing them.
The eggs hatch into birds using the braziers. Different braziers and eggs hatch different birds. All birds will respond to "Sing, <bird type>." Metal and gemstone birds will respond to "Fly up, <bird type>" and "Land, <bird type>". Gemstone birds will respond to "Hop up, <bird type>" as well as "Come along, <bird type>".
I bought a stationary kit. I freaking love the thing. For a 1 crown purchase, I'd have to say that it's already more then paid itself off in just pure roleplay satisfaction. I mean, 1000 letters isn't nearly as bad as 3 RL years to pay off a Palette...
Also, it's handy for other reasons. It's a letter that generally stands out amoungst all the Elegant White letters people might have in their inventory.
It's also especially awesome when you're in the middle of godknowswhere and remember/find out that you have to send a number of things to someone. Toss them all in a letter, falcon deliver, boom. Done. Don't even need to run to that post office or hassle someone into mailing you a letter.
I'm one of those people that likes the useless little things in life and finds them endearing. I will get my money's worth out of an object just by being gleeful of its existance. For that reason alone, I think the birds are totally worth it.
Also, it's handy for other reasons. It's a letter that generally stands out amoungst all the Elegant White letters people might have in their inventory.
It's also especially awesome when you're in the middle of godknowswhere and remember/find out that you have to send a number of things to someone. Toss them all in a letter, falcon deliver, boom. Done. Don't even need to run to that post office or hassle someone into mailing you a letter.
I'm one of those people that likes the useless little things in life and finds them endearing. I will get my money's worth out of an object just by being gleeful of its existance. For that reason alone, I think the birds are totally worth it.
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