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Otha
If you aren't considering going serpent, don't even bother reading this post.

Please read the following before going Serpent and then complaining that you cannot kill anyone. I will try to teach you, but you have to realize that Serpent is an extremely difficult class to play.

Disadvantages of Serpents fighting others:

Overall disadvantages:
Subterfuge
-Negated by artifacts (lifevision)
-Dstab misses more often than not (I recently had dstab miss 4/5 times on an inept avoidance target. Having it miss more than once a during a locking combo is not a rare occurence.)
-Dstab is stopped by shield (requires eq) and rebounding (does not require eq). To strip shield you will need a hammer tattoo - long eq loss. Flay is a short balance loss, but still destroys locking chains.
-Execute (Serpents only unique instant kill) is stoppable by standing. Do not think it is like Behead/Eliminate/Tzanta/Vivisect/Cleave/Devour/etc. Those are all much more powerful. It does afflict on the second message (strength!)

Hypnosis
-Negated by leaving the room or having a friend snap you.

Venom
-(Almost?) every venom you can dstab can be dsl'd with. Transecrete will save you money though.

General:
Only class without passive or extra balance curing usable during combat. Also the only affliction class stopped by shield and rebounding.

Apostate
At a glance: Apostates are a cross between serpents and occultists. They can afflict faster than dstab with no chance of missing, go through shield and rebounding. They can afflict while removing curseward, which takes eq and time to put back up. They have passive curing, and can lock. They also have multiple entities.

Advantages: Vardrax is annonying?
Disadvantages: Passive curing, controlled passive afflicting, Unstoppable afflictions faster than you can afflict, illusions take mana

Knights (grouped together, sorry I'm lazy)
At a glance: Perhaps the (most) common class to fight. Actually not terribly balanced. I recommend fighting knights to start.
Advantages: Shrugging, Scales, Weaving, Vardrax is annonying?
Disadvantages: Fitness, Lifevision, Damage+afflictions at the same speed as dstab, ents stop critical dstab chains, scales and weaving are strippable by falcon.

Occultists:
At a glance: Best class to fight against, if you can handle their entities.
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Extra balance healing, ents stop critical dstab chains.

Shaman:
Advantages: Need to tumble to get around block. Unfortunately you cannot block all exits, this must be a one exit room.
Disadvantages: Hit and run tactics extremely prevalent for doll creation (no hypnosis), extra balance curing.

Magi:
Advtanges: None.
Disadvantages: Passive curing, bloodboil, no damage mitigation, icewalls stop arrows

Sylvan:
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Passive curing

Monks:
Advantages: Weaving, Scales
Disadvatanges: Extremely low health (generally accepted that Serpents have low health), cannot be mounted and evade, fitness, apparently dstab now gives great kai (according to Bleak)

Priest:
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Passive curing, balance free diagnose, balance free fullheals, heal through any amount of camus/relapse damage, bedevil, illusions take mana

Jesters:
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Hit and run tactics, unblockable, extra balance curing.

Druids:
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Passive curing

Sentinels
Advantages: None
Disadvantages: Fitness, ents stop critical dstab chains.


Edit: This is not to say that Serpents aren't incredibly fun to play. As one of the most difficult classes, every kill you get makes you giddy inside. I've never had as big adrenaline rushes as I have playing a serpent.
Azu
You forgot bard
Otha
QUOTE (Azu @ Aug 17 2009, 12:14 AM) *
You forgot bard



I am pretty sure no class has a set advantage against bard.
Mishgul
don't believe anything bleak says.

druids do great against bards currently. hydra can keep a permamangle and it does limb damage on an independant balance so harmonics don't slow you down. And you can easily get around trueparry.
Boz
Also, shrugging is pretty epic passive curing. Sure it fires randomly, but it is pretty often. Also, I like never miss with my dstabs..-shrug-. Overall, I love serpent. All about outsmarting the other guy!
Voy
I think those fifty "Advantages: none" will make every non-serpent's eyeballs explode.
Mishgul
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 17 2009, 12:42 AM) *
Also, shrugging is pretty epic passive curing. Sure it fires randomly, but it is pretty often. Also, I like never miss with my dstabs..-shrug-. Overall, I love serpent. All about outsmarting the other guy!


it is a matter of patience, rather than a matter of cleverness. Though one could argue that it takes a little brain to be patient.
Rynn
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Bleak told you dstab gives great kai? WHAT THE FECK.
Saadya
How about hypnosis when you're being kept in hypnotic trance by another serpent?

Disadvantage of apostates is they can't be blind and are vulnerable to stuff like transfix.

Edit: oh, for snakes only. Never mind.
Kateb
QUOTE (Otha @ Aug 17 2009, 12:15 AM) *
QUOTE (Azu @ Aug 17 2009, 12:14 AM) *
You forgot bard



I am pretty sure no class has a set advantage against bard.


I completely agree with Mishgul on this. Druids/Sylvans are great against bards, their dampen can remove 3(?) harmonics at a time, and they can do it quite quick. I'm not sure if it can be done out of grove, but it's a big one. Magi are effective against bards if they know what they're doing. they can remove bard harmonics pretty easily, they're able to destroy partita(along with sylvan) for cube sigil usage. But again, you must know what you're doing.

You also forgot the class Poergh.

This class has advantages against all other classes, and has few mild disadvantages. It is not suggested to fight her if you don't have to when you first start.(this class also includes other occultists that copy her exact tactics)
Mulkerrin
Serpents do have a few advantages against Mages. Scales offers full spectrum protection which includes Elemental, so compared to other classes (excepting those with Runes) they take less damage from Mages. They're highly mobile, there's almost nothing a Mage can do to stop a Serpent from moving out of Vibes. Their damage is primarily type Venom or Asphyxiation, so Stone/Diamond Skin is largely ignored. And they have bows for ranged attacks, while a Mage only has Firelash or Cata in groups. They also have another weakness, Mages can stack damage fairly effectively with Hailstorm/Holo which generally forces the Serpent to move, and that is very disruptive towards Hypno.

As far as Bards go, a Mage can get rid of Partita but a Bard can get rid of Reverberation, which leaves you fighting with Elementalism against Swashbuckling and Voicecraft.
Otha
I also forgot illusions, which are more or less an advantage against everyone. Lifevision limits it (1/4) but it is still probably the largest single advantage.
Whitesnake
So...you've finally realized what I've been annoyed by since the day I started my serpent..
Trevize
QUOTE (Otha @ Aug 16 2009, 07:08 PM) *
Overall disadvantages:
Subterfuge
-Negated by artifacts (lifevision)

Heh. Even if they have lifevision, some actions are hidden, ghosted hides your name in movement and ent/group, and hide still allows you to backstab. It only reveals movement through cloak and shows you in look/ql/who here through cloak and hide.
Sidonia
QUOTE (Otha @ Aug 17 2009, 12:08 AM) *
-Execute (Serpents only unique instant kill) is stoppable by standing. Do not think it is like Behead/Eliminate/Tzanta/Vivisect/Cleave/Devour/etc. Those are all much more powerful. It does afflict on the second message (strength!)

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ellodin
Advantage/disadvantage (depending on how you work with it): Most people tend to use the same system that shall remain nameless. That was the first thing I thought of, and I'm sure it comes out to a disadvantage for the vast majority of serpents.

Also, bite gives good kai if you're trying to, say, scyth/camus a monk out of the blue.

As for Shaman, tumble is rarely the only way to leave a room. Also the fact that if you fight higher might people in general, those Shamans will often use mountjump. Actually, I'm pretty much thinking of Mindshell.

Supply-wise, I think Serpent is probably one of the cheaper classes to play because of the not needing to buy venoms (if you're trans Venom, anyway).
Otha
If it's friendly just bite with Colocasia for kai.

Don't bite venomless.
Terra
QUOTE (Voy @ Aug 16 2009, 11:57 PM) *
I think those fifty "Advantages: none" will make every non-serpent's eyeballs explode.

Evade isn't an advantage at all against anyone. Nope. Not at all. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Mishgul @ Aug 17 2009, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 17 2009, 12:42 AM) *
Also, shrugging is pretty epic passive curing. Sure it fires randomly, but it is pretty often. Also, I like never miss with my dstabs..-shrug-. Overall, I love serpent. All about outsmarting the other guy!


it is a matter of patience, rather than a matter of cleverness. Though one could argue that it takes a little brain to be patient.

laugh.gif

I suppose that depends if you're trying to outlast them (which is another advantage of serpent), or trying to, you know, actually break their system.

Though, fighting some people (like, say, people with lifevision sad.gif) requires patience.
Metzger
I've often thought about making a serpent but:

I'm not patient enough for low level serpent bashing. It is the suck.
I would not enjoy the style of combat.
Snareman_kindfire
I have a tri trans serpent and have been trying to learn, but I was never really good with venom combos as a serpent or knight class. It also seems to me that illusions/hynosis/dstab all at the same time would be rather interesting to make work.

I dunno
Whitesnake
QUOTE (Terra @ Aug 21 2009, 10:01 PM) *
Though, fighting some people (like, say, people with lifevision sad.gif) requires patience.


Definitely agreed on that one.


QUOTE (Metzger @ Aug 21 2009, 10:19 PM) *
I've often thought about making a serpent but:

I'm not patient enough for low level serpent bashing. It is the suck.
I would not enjoy the style of combat.


Level up with Apostate or Shaman, change to Serpent. Pretty simple, and it's what I determined, over time, is the fastest and easiest way to do it if you can dedicate the time.

I was weird and started with Druid instead.



QUOTE (Snareman_kindfire @ Aug 21 2009, 10:56 PM) *
I have a tri trans serpent and have been trying to learn, but I was never really good with venom combos as a serpent or knight class. It also seems to me that illusions/hynosis/dstab all at the same time would be rather interesting to make work.

I dunno


You're hardly on your serpent enough to progress as it is. mellow.gif
Spire
I can finally see why every Serpent drools over the artefact dirks. They always speak as though they are the Holiest of Grails. Now I am in line for one.
Boz
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 12:44 PM) *
I can finally see why every Serpent drools over the artefact dirks. They always speak as though they are the Holiest of Grails. Now I am in line for one.


First figure out how to fight without one so you can teach me.
Darroth
Nm
Spire
Just now, chillin in Thera:

QUOTE
Cain comes flying in with a jumpkick from the north.
Cain's attack rebounds off your magical shield.
2729h, 3586m, 15940e, 17200w xkdb-[14:49:51:390]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3586m, 15940e, 17200w exkdb-[14:49:51:836]weaving on

You picture a cobra in your mind, and slowly begin to weave back and forth agilely.
2729h, 3586m, 15940e, 17200w ekdb-[14:49:52:129]
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey.
2729h, 3525m, 15940e, 17188w ekdb-[14:49:53:740]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
2729h, 3525m, 15940e, 17188w exkdb-[14:49:55:94]
Cain sinks back into the menacing stance of the Scorpion.
2729h, 3525m, 15940e, 17188w exkdb-[14:49:55:386]n

Spring Lane.
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. There are 2 young New Theran villagers here. Surveying the area around him, a burly Theran guard stands at attention here.
You see exits leading north, south, and west (open door).
Shield down!
n
2729h, 3525m, 15938e, 17188w exkdb-[14:49:56:166]
A cobblestone path.
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. A small grey-brown rattlesnake is coiled here, rattling menacingly. Being careful not to dirty her dress, Kathlyn, a sweet Theran girl plays here quietly. A New Theran villager stands here at ease.
You see exits leading north and south.
2729h, 3525m, 15938e, 17188w exkdb-n

At a sturdy village gate.
A smattering of clouds fills the sky, lacing it with spiderwebs of grey. Some graffiti has been scrawled here. It reads, "Welcome to New Thera, the home of thieves!" Shuffling through his endless bag of vials, Rufio, the Receptacle Representative, looks around for more collectibles. Moving debris with ease, a burly construction worker toils here. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. A crushed red admiral butterfly is on the ground. A New Theran villager stands here at ease.
You see exits leading north and south.
2729h, 3525m, 15936e, 17200w exkdb-[14:49:56:558]n

North of New Thera (road).
The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. A polished wooden sign is nailed to a small tree here. A ladder of long, soft leaves comprises a wispy Weaver's Fern along the ground. There are 2 lottery boxes here. Someone's magically-preserved letter has been lost here. Standing still as a statue, a blood steed has fixed its fiery red eyes on some movement in the distance. Page Rurik, Protege of Lady Trenia is here. He wields a steel shortsword in each hand. Melazuril is here. He wields a mithril broadsword in each hand.
You see exits leading north, southeast, south, southwest, and northwest.
2729h, 3466m, 15934e, 17189w exkdb-[14:49:57:432]
(Market): Soulfyriani says, "Paying to speak with a member of Oakstone."
2729h, 3466m, 15934e, 17189w exkdb-[14:49:57:637]nw

A rock garden at the foot of a hill.
The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. A rune shaped like a butterfly has been sketched into the ground here. A rune like an open eye has been sketched into the ground here. A massive iron statue of Aegis, the God of War, looms here. Overflowing with blood and other trophies of the dead, a sacrificial altar to the Lord of Warfare has been erected nearby. A runic totem is planted solidly in the ground.
You see exits leading north and southeast.
2729h, 3466m, 15932e, 17189w exkdb-[14:49:58:78]n

Inside the Mausoleum of Ekary Lucoster.
Flapping its massive wings, a dire bat flies overhead.
You see a single exit leading south.
2729h, 3466m, 15930e, 17189w exkdb-[14:49:58:392]vault scyn

You easily vault onto the back of a dire bat.
2729h, 3466m, 15880e, 17189w ekdb-[14:49:58:927]
Your oaken pipe has gone cold and dark.
2729h, 3466m, 15880e, 17189w ekdb-
Your oaken pipe has gone cold and dark.
2729h, 3466m, 15880e, 17189w ekdb-[14:49:59:238]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
2729h, 3466m, 15880e, 17189w exkdb-[14:50:00:176]
You use a soot-blackened tinderbox to make fire.
You carefully light your treasured pipe until it is smoking nicely.
2729h, 3466m, 15900e, 17189w exkdb-[14:50:00:304]
You use a soot-blackened tinderbox to make fire.
You carefully light your treasured pipe until it is smoking nicely.
2729h, 3466m, 15900e, 17200w exkdb-[14:50:00:598]s
get gold
get shard
gold

A rock garden at the foot of a hill.
The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. A rune shaped like a butterfly has been sketched into the ground here. A rune like an open eye has been sketched into the ground here. A massive iron statue of Aegis, the God of War, looms here. Overflowing with blood and other trophies of the dead, a sacrificial altar to the Lord of Warfare has been erected nearby. A runic totem is planted solidly in the ground.
You see exits leading north and southeast.
2729h, 3397m, 15898e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:01:895]
I see no "gold" to take.
2729h, 3397m, 15898e, 17187w exkdb-
I see no "shard" to take.
2729h, 3397m, 15898e, 17187w exkdb-
You hold no "gold".
2729h, 3397m, 15898e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:02:145]se

North of New Thera (road).
The stars twinkle in the clear night sky. A polished wooden sign is nailed to a small tree here. A ladder of long, soft leaves comprises a wispy Weaver's Fern along the ground. There are 2 lottery boxes here. Someone's magically-preserved letter has been lost here. Standing still as a statue, a blood steed has fixed its fiery red eyes on some movement in the distance. Page Rurik, Protege of Lady Trenia is here. He wields a steel shortsword in each hand. Melazuril is here. He wields a mithril broadsword in each hand. Devoto Cain, Student of Strength is here.
You see exits leading north, southeast, south, southwest, and northwest.
2729h, 3397m, 15896e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:02:840]sh

Tali, riding a storm bull, arrives from the south.
2729h, 3397m, 15896e, 17187w exkdb-
Tali takes a drink from an oaken vial.
2729h, 3397m, 15896e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:03:36]
Shield up!
2729h, 3397m, 15896e, 17187w xkdb-[14:50:03:337]
Melazuril takes a drink from an orangewood vial.
2729h, 3397m, 15916e, 17199w xkdb-[14:50:04:432]
No temperance (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3397m, 15916e, 17199w xkdb-sip frost
[14:50:04:795]

2729h, 3397m, 15916e, 17199w xkdb-[14:50:04:933]hypnotise cain

Shield down!
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3337m, 15916e, 17187w xkdb-[14:50:06:406]
No selfishness (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3337m, 15916e, 17187w xkdb-[14:50:06:699]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3337m, 15916e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:07:208]hypnotise cain

No mindseye (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3337m, 15916e, 17187w exkdb-[14:50:08:192]
You prepare yourself to hypnotise your victim, Cain.
pt Hypnotising Cain
2729h, 3287m, 15916e, 17177w exkdb-[14:50:08:505]
(Party): You say, "Hypnotising Cain."
2729h, 3287m, 15936e, 17189w exkdb-[14:50:08:617]
Melazuril takes a drink from an orangewood vial.
2729h, 3287m, 15936e, 17189w exkdb-[14:50:09:222]
You reel as your mind is viciously battered by a mental assault from Cain.
2729h, 3219m, 15936e, 17176w exkdb-[14:50:10:206]
UNSTUNNED!
2729h, 3219m, 15936e, 17176w exkdb-focus
[14:50:11:436]
Focus
No stupidity
2729h, 2969m, 15936e, 17101w exkdb-outr goldenseal
tm
eat goldenseal


2729h, 2969m, 15936e, 17101w exkdb-[14:50:11:773]
Mindseye up
2729h, 2969m, 15936e, 17101w xkdb-tm
Goldenseal
No epilepsy
2729h, 2969m, 15936e, 17101w xkdb-[14:50:12:32]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 2969m, 15936e, 17101w xkdb-[14:50:12:311]
You fix Cain with an entrancing stare, and smile in satisfaction as you realise that his mind is yours.
2729h, 2969m, 15940e, 17113w xkdb-[14:50:12:664]


Herbs go
2729h, 2969m, 15940e, 17113w xkdb-
Focus go
2729h, 2969m, 15940e, 17113w xkdb-focus
[14:50:14:837]
No mindseye (Mind Strip)
2729h, 2911m, 15940e, 17102w xkdb-
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 2911m, 15940e, 17102w xkdb-
(Party): Tali says, "You want to fight him alone?"
2729h, 2911m, 15940e, 17102w xkdb-sip mana
[14:50:15:00]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 2911m, 15940e, 17102w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 2911m, 15940e, 17102w exkdb-[14:50:15:228]

Focus
No dizziness
2729h, 2661m, 15940e, 17027w exkdb-
(The Warriors of Sapience): Carmain says, "Concussion used to be a level 1 headbreak when I was jester :|."
2729h, 2661m, 15940e, 17027w exkdb-
Mana
2729h, 3303m, 15940e, 17027w exkdb-[14:50:15:505]
You issue the suggestion, concealing it deep within Cain's mind.
2729h, 3253m, 15940e, 17017w xkdb-[14:50:15:759]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3253m, 15940e, 17029w exkdb-[14:50:16:458]

No speed (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3253m, 15940e, 17029w exkdb-sip speed
[14:50:16:704]suggest cain confusion

You issue the suggestion, concealing it deep within Cain's mind.
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w xkdb-[14:50:16:836]
Speed
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w xkdb-[14:50:16:938]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w xkdb-[14:50:17:236]
ONBAL focus
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w exkdb-[14:50:17:834]
No caloric (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3203m, 15940e, 17019w exkdb-apply caloric to body
[14:50:18:258]
Caloric
2729h, 3143m, 15940e, 17007w exkdb-[14:50:18:407]

You issue the suggestion, concealing it deep within Cain's mind.
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-
Salves go
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-[14:50:19:647]
Health/Mana go
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-
No lipreading (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-[14:50:19:924]seal cain 1

You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-[14:50:20:253]seal cain 1

Melazuril grows still and his lips begin to move silently.
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 16997w xkdb-[14:50:20:548]seal cain 1

You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3093m, 15940e, 17009w exkdb-
You draw Cain out of his hypnotic daze, your suggestions indelibly printed on his mind.
2729h, 2893m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-sip mana
[14:50:20:888]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 2893m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-
(The Warriors of Sapience): Tali says, "I guess it is."
2729h, 2893m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-[14:50:21:16]seal cain 1

Mana
2729h, 3457m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-[14:50:21:161]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3457m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-[14:50:21:452]
No ghost (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3457m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-[14:50:21:753]
Speed up
2729h, 3457m, 15940e, 16999w xkdb-[14:50:22:69]lipread

Your eyes are sightless, how do you expect to be able to lipread?
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w xkdb-[14:50:22:339]
No frost (Mind Strip)
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w xkdb-sip frost
[14:50:23:244]
Frost up
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w xkdb-[14:50:23:384]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w exkdb-[14:50:23:685]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w exkdb-[14:50:24:126]
I don't see that item in your inventory.
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w exkdb-[14:50:24:236]
I don't see that item in your inventory.
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w exkdb-
You have no dirk in your hands!
unwield left
unwield right
g meteor from bag
g dirk from bag
g whip from bag
wield left dirk
wield right whip
2729h, 3387m, 15940e, 16985w exkdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16980w xkdb-[14:50:24:599]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-[14:50:24:672]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-[14:50:24:813]
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-
You must regain equilibrium first.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w xkdb-[14:50:25:140]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-[14:50:25:445]
Health/Mana go
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-[14:50:25:736]

You aren't wielding anything.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-[14:50:26:91]
You aren't wielding anything.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-[14:50:26:198]
You take a group of 38 meteor arrows from a bag of stasis.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-
You take a needle-pointed dirk from a bag of stasis.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-
You take an iron-tipped whip from a bag of stasis.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-
You begin to wield a needle-pointed dirk in your left hand.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-
You begin to wield an iron-tipped whip in your right hand.
2729h, 3362m, 15940e, 16992w exkdb-[14:50:26:529]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
2729h, 3297m, 15940e, 16979w exkdb-[14:50:26:810]
You secrete kalmia and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
2729h, 3297m, 15940e, 16979w exkdb-[14:50:27:256]
You secrete curare and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
2729h, 3297m, 15940e, 16979w exkdb-
You prick Cain twice in rapid succession with your dirk.
Horror overcomes Cain's face as his body stiffens into paralysis.
2729h, 3297m, 15930e, 16979w ekdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
2729h, 3272m, 15930e, 16974w kdb-[14:50:27:590]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
2729h, 3272m, 15940e, 16986w ekdb-[14:50:28:471]snap cain

You snap your fingers in front of Cain.
2729h, 3272m, 15940e, 16986w ekdb-[14:50:29:362]
Cain eats a bloodroot leaf.
2729h, 3272m, 15940e, 16986w ekdb-[14:50:29:793]
Cain shuffles his feet in boredom.
2729h, 3272m, 15940e, 16986w ekdb-[14:50:30:93]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
2729h, 3272m, 15940e, 16986w exkdb-[14:50:30:403]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
2729h, 3216m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-[14:50:30:752]
Cain balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
You quickly jump back, avoiding the attack.
2729h, 3216m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
Cain balls up one fist and hammerfists you.
Your left leg is greatly damaged from the beating.
He connects to the left leg!
2241h, 3216m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
You secrete gecko and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
2241h, 3216m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
You secrete slike and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
2241h, 3216m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
You prick Cain twice in rapid succession with your dirk.
2241h, 3216m, 15930e, 16975w ekdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
2241h, 3191m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-apply restoration to legs
sip health
outr moss
eat moss
[14:50:31:250]
Cain takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his body.
2241h, 3191m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-[14:50:31:319]
Restoration - Left Leg
2241h, 3191m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-[14:50:31:433]
Health
2742h, 3191m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-

2742h, 3191m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-
Moss
3082h, 3557m, 15930e, 16970w kdb-[14:50:31:775]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
3082h, 3557m, 15930e, 16970w ekdb-[14:50:32:67]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
3082h, 3557m, 15940e, 16982w ekdb-[14:50:33:94]
You secrete kalmia and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3082h, 3557m, 15940e, 16982w ekdb-[14:50:33:200]
You secrete curare and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3082h, 3557m, 15940e, 16982w ekdb-
You must regain balance first.
3082h, 3557m, 15940e, 16982w ekdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w kdb-[14:50:33:529]
(The Warriors of Sapience): Carmain says, "I've never got the You reel from the effects of a Concussion before."
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w kdb-[14:50:33:804]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w xkdb-[14:50:34:105]
Cain eases himself out of the Dragon stance.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w exkdb-[14:50:34:422]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w exkdb-[14:50:34:564]
You secrete kalmia and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w exkdb-[14:50:34:676]
You secrete curare and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w exkdb-
You detect nothing here by that name.
3082h, 3532m, 15940e, 16977w exkdb-
Upon whom do you wish to conjure such an illusion?
3082h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-
He slams into you, knocking you off your feet and stunning you!
You lose purchase on a dire bat.
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-
Cain draws back his arm but does not follow through with a punch.
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-
Cain draws back his arm but does not follow through with a punch.
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-[14:50:35:26]
No damaged left leg
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-apply mending to legs
[14:50:35:416]
You are too stunned to be able to do anything.
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-[14:50:35:536]
UNSTUNNED
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-[14:50:35:933]
Health/Mana go
2370h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-sip health
[14:50:36:192]
Health
3097h, 3462m, 15940e, 16963w exkdb-[14:50:36:325]

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
3097h, 3462m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-[14:50:36:868]
You secrete kalmia and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3097h, 3462m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-[14:50:36:979]
You secrete curare and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3097h, 3462m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
You must be standing first.
3097h, 3462m, 15940e, 16975w exkdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w xkdb-[14:50:37:318]
Moss go
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w xkdb-apply mending to legs
[14:50:37:641]
Mending - Left Leg
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w xkdb-[14:50:37:791]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w exkdb-stand
[14:50:38:163]
STANDING
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w exkdb-

You purge every drop of venom from your bloodstream.
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w exkdb-[14:50:38:415]
You secrete kalmia and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w exkdb-[14:50:38:532]
You secrete curare and deftly bring a needle-pointed dirk to your mouth, letting the venom drip upon it.
3097h, 3437m, 15940e, 16970w exkdb-
You prick Cain twice in rapid succession with your dirk.
Horror overcomes Cain's face as his body stiffens into paralysis.
3097h, 3437m, 15930e, 16970w ekdb-
You conjure up your illusion towards Cain.
3097h, 3412m, 15930e, 16965w kdb-
(The Warriors of Sapience): Tali says, "I have."
3097h, 3412m, 15930e, 16965w kdb-[14:50:38:877]
Salves go
3097h, 3356m, 15930e, 16954w kdb-[14:50:39:152]
Cain suddenly appears jittery and scattered, all mental equilibrium lost.
3097h, 3356m, 15930e, 16954w kdb-[14:50:39:433]
You have recovered equilibrium.
EQUILIBRIUM!!
3097h, 3356m, 15930e, 16954w ekdb-[14:50:39:740]
Health/Mana go
3097h, 3356m, 15940e, 16966w ekdb-[14:50:40:901]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3097h, 3356m, 15940e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:41:484]unwield left
unwield right
wield bastard
behead cain


You cease wielding a needle-pointed dirk in your left hand.
3097h, 3356m, 15940e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:42:408]
You cease wielding an iron-tipped whip in your right hand.
3097h, 3356m, 15940e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:42:528]
You start to wield a Delosian bastard sword in your hands.
3097h, 3356m, 15940e, 16966w exkdb-
You raise your bastard sword over your head and begin to swing it in a wide circle, gaining speed as you go.
3097h, 3356m, 15790e, 16966w ekdb-[14:50:42:846]
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3097h, 3296m, 15810e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:44:657]
Cain takes some salve from a vial and rubs it on his body.
3097h, 3296m, 15810e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:45:828]
(The Warriors of Sapience): Carmain says, "Weird."
3097h, 3296m, 15810e, 16966w exkdb-[14:50:46:260]
(The Warriors of Sapience): Tali says, "It comes like 6 seconds after you do it."
3097h, 3238m, 15810e, 16955w exkdb-[14:50:47:327]
You begin to bear down on Cain, preparing to destroy him.
3097h, 3238m, 15810e, 16955w exkdb-[14:50:47:620]
(The Warriors of Sapience): Carmain says, "Oh."
3097h, 3169m, 15830e, 16954w exkdb-[14:50:51:384]
Tali shakes his head sadly from side to side.
3097h, 3169m, 15830e, 16954w exkdb-[14:50:51:679]
A surge of elation rushes through you as you realise that Cain's fate is sealed. With a roar of triumph, you whip your bastard sword at Cain's neck, slicing his head from his shoulders in a veritable fountain of dark red blood.
You have slain Cain.


I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!
Boz
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 03:08 PM) *
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I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!


Great. I play serpent for a RL year and still suck, Spire does it in a week.. dry.gif
Kresslack
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 03:08 PM) *
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I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!


Great. I play serpent for a RL year and still suck, Spire does it in a week.. dry.gif


Some people can afford to switch and boost.
Saadya
(The Warriors of Sapience): Carmain says, "I've never got the You reel from the effects of a Concussion before."
Boz
QUOTE (Kresslack @ Aug 22 2009, 03:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 03:08 PM) *
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I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!


Great. I play serpent for a RL year and still suck, Spire does it in a week.. dry.gif


Some people can afford to switch and boost.


Heh it's not even that so much as offensively he tore Cain up and I can't even kill people using only Vadi.
Darroth
Why did Cain stop attacking after the batter?
Daloc
He didn't, young noobawan, he was stripping defences, probably going for weaving.
Whitesnake
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 02:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Kresslack @ Aug 22 2009, 03:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 03:08 PM) *
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I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!


Great. I play serpent for a RL year and still suck, Spire does it in a week.. dry.gif


Some people can afford to switch and boost.


Heh it's not even that so much as offensively he tore Cain up and I can't even kill people using only Vadi.


That's not really that hard to learn, actually.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 02:58 PM) *
QUOTE (Kresslack @ Aug 22 2009, 03:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 07:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 03:08 PM) *
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I get it. Wouldn't hurt to be faster!


Great. I play serpent for a RL year and still suck, Spire does it in a week.. dry.gif


Some people can afford to switch and boost.


Heh it's not even that so much as offensively he tore Cain up and I can't even kill people using only Vadi.


That's not really that hard to learn, actually.


Your words hurt, my good sir! I did learn to not have every venom keybound individually...I just have a habit of forgetting my aliases.
Whitesnake
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.
Darroth
Oh, had it gagged.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!
Whitesnake
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!



lol


I'll steal you later on and see if we can't get some improvement.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!



lol


I'll steal you later on and see if we can't get some improvement.


Sweet. Still no idea who you are, but at this point I don't care as long as I get better, heh.
Whitesnake
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!



lol


I'll steal you later on and see if we can't get some improvement.


Sweet. Still no idea who you are, but at this point I don't care as long as I get better, heh.


I'd change my display name to Direxi, but I can't find a way to do it. And I can't be bothered to make a new account.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 06:00 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:54 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 04:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!



lol


I'll steal you later on and see if we can't get some improvement.


Sweet. Still no idea who you are, but at this point I don't care as long as I get better, heh.


I'd change my display name to Direxi, but I can't find a way to do it. And I can't be bothered to make a new account.


Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I've gotten a bit better since the last time we sparred.
Whitesnake
I'd hope so, it's been like..a week.
Boz
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 06:14 PM) *
I'd hope so, it's been like..a week.


Been longer than that, I've only fought Direxi once I thought.
Spire
Ironically, I owe you two thanks.

It's Boz's fault I went Serpent in the first place. One day he asked me "Do you know anything about Serpent?" I told him I had never been one, but could probably figure it out in theory. So we sat down for an hour or two talking tactics and I sold myself on the possibilities.

Bastard.

Direxi, thanks for taking a whole bunch of time answering all my questions and giving me a crash course basic training. Saved me hours of individual testing!
Trici
Direxi = best serpent tutor. wub.gif
Terra
QUOTE (Boz @ Aug 22 2009, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Whitesnake @ Aug 22 2009, 05:34 PM) *
You also swung randomly in the arena last time, from what I could tell, hoping it pieced together.


Tactic 1: Rangor's trick that only seems to work when he does it..
Tactic 2: Flailing about
Tactic 3: Webwhoring!

That's actually probably my trick. laugh.gif

Tactics 2 and 3 are amazing.
Spire
Terra's trick.
Kresslack
QUOTE (Trici @ Aug 23 2009, 06:38 AM) *
Direxi = best serpent tutor. wub.gif


He was training be when I was Hashani serpent, before I had to go dorment for years. :/
Mulkerrin
QUOTE (Spire @ Aug 22 2009, 09:44 AM) *
I can finally see why every Serpent drools over the artefact dirks. They always speak as though they are the Holiest of Grails. Now I am in line for one.

Other artifact weapons may have higher stats than the forged models, but it'll vary from item to item because forging is variable. The actual speed/accuracy/damage increases will likewise vary accordingly. Artifact Dirks give a guaranteed and uniform boost to Dstab, which can't otherwise be sped up except racial balance. It's similar with artifact Maces and Blackjacks, where the non-artie version has set stats and the artifact version is always going to be 10/15/20 percent better.
Alinoe
Also, serpents can do this:

5420h, 2792m, 22205e, 12860w exdb-
Orophin appears from out of nowhere.
Orophin leaps from the shadows and plunges a dagger into Dannyl's back!
5420h, 2792m, 22205e, 12860w exdb-
Kupo appears from out of nowhere.
Kupo leaps from the shadows and plunges a dagger into Dannyl's back!
Dannyl's eyes close suddenly as he falls asleep.
5420h, 2792m, 22205e, 12860w exdb-
Orophin slips behind Dannyl and garrotes him with his whip.
Dannyl gives a last, feeble gasp as his windpipe is crushed.
Dannyl has been slain by Orophin.
Saadya
Location, Fish street in front of 5 other people smile.gif
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