So, I'm after numbers..lots of numbers. If anyone has them or knows where I could get them, that would be lovely. I'd get them myself, but I don't have any way to see/use timestamps and I don't have the gold IG to get that many duels even if I did have timestamps.

The numbers I need/would like to have (for every race if possible!):
Doublestab balance
Herb balance
Elixir balance
Mending balance
Restoration balance
Illusion balance
Web balance
Snipe balance

Any of those would rock..I'd most like doublestab balance and herb balance for every race, illusion balance would also be good. The others are sort of secondary in nature..any help is appreciated, thanks in advance!

I believe doublestab balance is 2.5 seconds always independent of race, or at least it used to be.

Doublestab is race dependent.

I'll work with it assuming it's 2.5. How about illusion balance or herb balance?

doublestab was 3 seconds fo rhuman last i checked and 2.4ish seconds for rajamala going by 20% speed increase? (level 2) i'm not too sure htough, Probably Santar or someone would know.

herb balance is 1 second for everyone except raja 1.5 seconds.

mending balance is 1 second if it cures something but doesn't take balance if it doesn't cure something.

same with epidemral

restoration is 4 seconds always.

illusions should be 1 second if ti's the subterfuge ability

no idea about the rest

I did some tests and that's not what I got, but I'm using the Mudlet Beta and I suck at math, so I'm gonna go with those numbers unless someone offers other ones. Thanks guys!

Fixed for grammar and spelling.

Herb balance is 1.5 seconds for normal people, 1.7 including latency. Rajamalas are slower than that. In addition to having tested this fairly extensively, if it were 1 second, I couldn't beat herb balance as a Mhun Apostate with Deadeyes at 2.37 seconds (mean, I don't know the median).

Illusion is slightly slower than 1 second, I believe it winds up being roughly 1.3. You can illusion twice between doublestabs unless you have an artifact dirk, but a Raja's Thoth's Fang stabs at 2.1 seconds and double illusions don't work.

Your salve balances are correct to the best of my knowledge.

Please check your numbers, and keep in mind that latency generally adds .2 seconds to any theoretical balance you have. Even if you automate your doublestabs, you can't stab every 2.1 seconds unless your ping is truly negligible and your client responds instantaneously. In addition, most balances are slightly randomized, either intentionally or by practical concerns like your lag. I generally get a standard deviation of .1-.2 seconds whenever I run a test for 500+ speed trials.

It's not that balance recovery is randomised, it's that you only regain balance when the periodic balance recovery process runs. It's every .25 seconds in Aetolia, I'm not sure if it's faster in Achaea.

So if an ability should recover balance in 2 seconds, but the recovery process fires right before the 2 seconds is up, and then again at about 2.2 seconds, you'll have to wait that extra .2 seconds to regain balance.

There may be abilities with randomised balance recovery in addition to that, but I can't think of any.

Got it. I haven't tested anything in years. I still have logs but logs don't make you good. I'm only just starting to get used to the pace of Achaea again.

Heh logs would help me though, the flaw of Nexus is I can't log anything...

You can, you just won't get the time stamps you are after.

...I never knew that. That seems very odd.

If I remember right, it was made that way to greatly speed things up. Balance and equilibrium recovery used to cause a lot of slowness.

That was before my time I think, though. I just remember that from old announce posts.

Huh..

Like how everyone bleeds on the same tick? (like I see Deathsight bleed deaths on the same tick that I bleed)

Or how denizens seem to hit on the same tick, on different beats. (Denizen Deathsights as a denizen hits me)

Interesting!

That's a near 10% potential variance in Rajamala tekura, and answers why I get anywhere from 2.2 to 2.5 for balance recovery. Hmm.

That's interesting and I'm impressed. I probably wouldn't have come up with that particular optimization on my own.

Sena gains 150 e-peen points.

I am impressed too. Sounds like a lot of patience invested in Achaea

So many numbers.

My horkie dstab is about 3-3.2.
That's all I've really tested. Sorry I can't give you any more numbers.