Donatarion gets credit for this idea, since Penth closed the thread without reading all of the awesomeness contained in the last few pages..









Just some of the stuff from the thread, I hope I got the important bits...basically you raid a city and have a ritual of some sort you can enact, after X amount of time of not moving (like uprooting a totem) some sort of event occurs based on your city. No combat purposes, no rewards for it, it's just a taunt thing..like raising your flag over an enemy's fortress. "Hey, we came, we saw, we kicked your arse." kinda deal.

This is not a good idea. This does not give raiding a point.

It's true, it doesn't give raiding a point, just one more way of saying "lolz we pwned j00!" I mean, I could see it being awesome if it were actually rare, but with the regularity that Mhaldor and Ashtan can raid their enemies into the dust, we'd see eagles dotting the skyline above half of Sapience 24/7.

EDIT: Note: I would've used apples, but seriously, apples? That's Mhaldor's symbol? Why an apple?

That is Lord Apples to you.

The point is to give raiders something to do besides just sit there and kill everyone, defend the one person unable to move (due to setting up the ritual). Also, the time this would take would be comparable to uprooting (around 15 minutes, someone suggested?). Once again, this is Dontarion's idea so I'm gonna let him and the rest of the group that was talking about it do the rest of the explaining, they do it better than me!

Berenene's said twenty seconds, which would've been ridiculous. But honestly, raiders can already uproot totems. Why give them this, too?

Again, just something that can be done as kind of a "Look at what we can do!". Raising the flag over someone's city. This is MUCH less harmful than uprooting a totem, but it gives MORE in the sense of an RP feel. It's a way of displaying one's military prowess.

That is what deathsight is for.

I sort of like this idea for the general point of it - giving the raiders a way to show they've definitively won that's both less destructive and more obvious to anyone who cares to look, so they can feel satisfied and go home.

My only objection is that it's hard for me at least to make much RP sense of what this thing is with the shimmering picture on it and why they're able to put it up in any city, how that mechanism works, and why the city can't take it back down...I mean, you can give explanations but it feels a bit random and hokey.

It started out compared to the thing from Harry Potter lol. It wouldn't be a shimmering picture, just a world wide thing. Everyone would see an eagle flying from the middle of Shallam after Ashtan did it, and that would be the end of it til they did it again.

Why don't you just play the game, eh.

Yeah..I'd rather chaosray 15 people and kill 8 of them for the deathsights than wave my flag over Shallam.

If anything, a golden apple should be Ashtan's. Though Babel may not like that much .

Yeah, not so much. No eagles, either. Too many damned eagles.

Ashtan's could be the sign of the Twin...though not sure that would fly with non-Babelonians.

The apples thing was a joke directed to the Mhaldorians referring to Apollyon as Lord Apples. As for symbols, I don't particularly care....we were brainstorming on a different thread (it was a HUGE derail..) and it got closed. So, I decided to make another thread for it and see what everyone else thought. Have fun with the idea, I don't care one way or another!

There was an old point to raiding besides "lol let's kill people lol wtf brb byob bbq"

That's convenient, because it appears to have been fairly poorly received.

-shrug- there were about 5 of us all talking about it. Dunno where they ran off to, but quite a few of us were discussing it. Not sure what you're trying to say, but meh. Put it in the game, yay it's something new to play around with! Don't put it in the game, don't care. Although with the current trend of ideas, this one is pretty -ing good.

Mhaldor: Red Fog In the streets, obscuring items and people and making it difficult to see. Masking exits.

Eleusis: Full vines covering the city, effect similar to that of grave hands, you'd get entangled as you tried to move about the city.

Hashan: Covers your city completly in darkness. Similar to that of night

Ashtan: Chaotic Water from the well flows through their streets. Slows peoples movement as they try to leave the room, it doesn't stop it like grave hands or the vines it just slows them down.

Shallam: Celestial fires burn through out the city, prevents and and startles loyals and entities. (not so much effect to actual players but all entities are paniced.

Now my idea is that the City leaders themselves could only enite their cities rite.

Poergh, Imyrr, and some others are raiding Shallam.

Imyrr shouts (Something really Ashanti and something about chaotic water or chaos)
Then to enact the rite Imyrr would do the following
CALL FORTH WATERS
You have enacted the Astanti rite of the Waters, Which will flood this area for <time period to be implented I suggest one month but that's open to debate> This rite must be prepared for <time to be implented, I suggest 15 minutes> in which that time you may do nothing but call forth the waters. AGREE to call forth the waters
agree
(combat spam of Poergh, and Co killing people)

>WORLD VIEW< The ground beneath your feet cracks and splits as the moisture is drawn from it.

<time to be determed later>

>World View< Monstorous pillars are water jet skyward over the city of Shallam dousing all with its chaotic taint.

People need to stop making up terrible ideas for stuff they don't even involve themselves in.

I was thinking that myself.

I don't think we need a massive overhaul as such, even if I would like to see a war system.

Raiding as such is fine, as is dying. What is lame is when it is done in the context of lopsided 3+hour lolzfest.

Having good RP and goals would be great, but I don't see a good idea for it coming together yet.

If this idea has any merit, it's less in coolness (though with the proper descriptions and a little tweaking it could be kind of cool) and more in informing people that a raid is going on. No one can really complain "I didn't know there was a raid, you -" if you walk in and make some giant mark in the sky.

In that regard, I think it's a step in the right direction.

Also, I think your idea would have gone over CONSIDERABLY better if you had not mentioned the Harry Potter parallel.

Heh yeah that made me laugh too. I don't know where Dontarion went, either..

Seeing as the idea expressed is supposed to happen well into the raid, it does not do this.

This idea is bad.

While it's a nice idea, I agree with Draekar and Gorlasintan. This would merely serve to compound the problems with raiding at present, not alleviate them or channel them appropriately.

This is a valid point, except that the idea doesn't do anything to warn of a raid. It's the objective of a raid, and thus only happens after the raid is about finished. If it were tweaked to occur just after the raid starts, it would have this effect and, thus, considerably more merit as an idea.