I personally only used one once just to see what it did and then began to collect as many as I could. But what do other people think about them? From my point of view it doesn't seem too useful against anyone that can cure aeon

Since they were nerfed, they're not as good.

They aren't really good at all It doesn't even seem worth using in a fight, I remember seeing Bain use it once while fighting Zaldin but then he just seemed to be spamming random occultist class skills...

They just don't seem worth it to me, though they are still fun to collect.

I've never used one and I'm almost 200 in game. I'd like to try one one day, but I always forget.

Yeah, maybe if more people used it and had opinions about it, we could get it fixed to the point where it becomes really helpful (which you'd think it should be). Then again if people started using it what would we collect?!

Is it half of current health or half of max health in damage?

I think it used to be half health, strip defenses, and give aeon. But that was soundly abused. I'm not sure what it is now.

That is what I had heard it once was, but after that one time I tested it, I'm pretty sure it doesn't strip defences and that it does less than half health.

I know it gives auto aeon that lasts longer than the aeon you would get through aeon tarot but that's about it.

Edit: I don't think I've ever used the word "aeon" that many times in one sentence

What got it nerfed was people using truename, killing their target, truenaming again, kill their target over and over. I'm pretty sure that's impossible to do now.

Yeah I can understand that, but you'd think there could be a balance where truename is still useful even though it isn't a guaranteed kill. I think more testing is needed so we can find out exactly what it does as well.

Star star star star star truename warp warp.

It's funny because it's kinda true

That's in the same announce as the above quote. Announce post by Maya, #2264.

Then why did they have to nerf it so badly? It would be cool if occultists could have one good skill that does the same thing every time they use it

You'll always have hangedman.

This is the most retarded topic I've seen in a hell of a long time.

"I have this ability. I don't use it. I don't know what it does. It is probably useless. We should probably change it. For some reason, though I don't know what that reason is."

Truename is absolutely outstanding. After you acquire one by grabbing a corpse through whichever means:

No setup. Instant heavy damage. Instant Aeon. Under most basic 1v1 circumstances absolutely crippling. Under most 2v1 person scenarios absolutely devastating.

Now, please. If you have an idea, research it. Grasp it. Master it. Then come here and potentially waste our time with it.

But truename no longer does 'heavy damage'. By the time you've recovered equilibrium your opponent will mostly likely have SMOKEd ELM and SIPed HEALTH.

And you shouldn't need to use a once per every other corpse ability in order to make an absolutely devastating 2v1 combination.

Truename does more damage than any other ability in your arsenal. Except a lucky Fire/Ice/Lightning Chaosrays.

And of course, if you let them why wouldn't they just smoke elm? An ability won't start and end a fight for you. It sets the stage in your favor for you to capitalize on your crippled opponent. It is one of the best abilities of its type. A true tide turning ability. What percentage of people don't go defensive after getting Truenamed.



The best teaming class in the game shouldn't have to A. At worst, have to kill his opponent first, B. Have corpses automatically delivered to him before (unless he has a retarded team mate) he is able to easily devastate an opponent in a team.

Like I said, you really should speak with authority about an ability (or anything) you're vaguely familiar with Go test, then come back when you've been taught.

That is what I was trying to say, you shouldn't need to have killed someone in advance or use an ability that requires that in order to have a devastating 2v1 combination in a fight.

It seems that none of us are sure how much damage truename does, so testing will need to be done before we can say exactly. The whole point of this thread was to see what other people think about truename because I don't have experience using it in fights, but from what I do know and from what other people have said it doesn't seem like truename is nearly as good as it should be (accounting for the trouble of getting one).

Potential trouble? Not impressed. Should look into combat. Perhaps become a combatant. Someday understand these abilities that we, combatants, use to entertain!

Truename is outstanding. Not many abilities compare to its effects.

Effects that matter:

1. Stun.
2. Aeon.
3. Blackout.
Honorable mention:
4. Concussion.

Not understanding how any of that relates to any of the above but ok!

Sorry, was a bit more drunk an hour ago. My mind vomited on the forums.

I meant to not post.

That's alright, it's understandable

pierce, maybe you could try fighting other players in achaea ?

It's "peirce", 'i' before 'e' except when spelling my name.

And actually I recently stopped playing achaea, I just stick to forums now and the truename thing had been on my mind for a long time.

But this thread really does make me want to do some testing with it!

Do not speak about that which ye know nothing.

Hrm, why would you hang around the forum of a game you dont even play?

Welcome to the Achaean forums!

Huh

I still consider myself part of the achaean community! I'm just not active in realms right now

no comment.

Truename damage was nerfed because it used to be so heavy from artifacted people that it might even have been comparable to un-nerfed Cain chokes.

As it is, truename is still a really useful tool since it does instant aeon as well as a chunk of damage. Considering occultists, this ability is really useful, especially since the only set up is getting your hands on their corpse.

TN is still very useful

Thanks to everyone (except maybe Tribal) for contributing to thread and giving me a little bit of what they thought about truenames. It's definitely an interesting ability and I look forward to testing it myself at some point when I return to realms.

Also if anyone else would like to do some testing with it or has done some since the last change to the ability a pm with information would be nice for a comparison.

The forums still exist?