Deladan
Jun 30 2009, 10:12 PM
Alright since the scale was put in for Str damage, is it really worth it to fury the entire fight or just trigger it to fury on impale for dsb. My walking around strength is 14 and from what I've been told it only adds about 100 points of damage when boosting up to 16 for dsl's.
Des
Jun 30 2009, 10:37 PM
Either way, fury right before DSB adds extra eq time before you can DSB, so that doesn't make much sense. It isn't like you are fighting 24/7 and need to conserve.
Crathen
Jun 30 2009, 10:49 PM
QUOTE (Des @ Jun 30 2009, 11:37 PM)

Either way, fury right before DSB adds extra eq time before you can DSB, so that doesn't make much sense. It isn't like you are fighting 24/7 and need to conserve.
Impale takes balance, fury takes eq, so no.
rukimoro
Jul 1 2009, 12:15 AM
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Deladan
Jul 1 2009, 01:29 AM
and from testing the extra strengh has a bigger impact for dsb than it does dsl. and fury only lasts like 15 minutes. So if I can concerve it. Means I'll have it when I actually need it
rledaman
Jul 1 2009, 04:40 AM
Do you actually have fights that last 15 minutes or more? Fury before the fight, turn it off right after, it will replenish after the hour is up.
Snareman_kindfire
Jul 1 2009, 07:07 AM
Unless it was changed I believe I read recently that fury lasts 10 minutes. I usually don't use fury at first in a fight, probably because I forget

or because I'm trying to save it for if they take that first dsb. I would have to test it again when I can play again, but I think I'd fury'd during an impale and dsb still happened just as fine, if not a split second later.
Sena
Jul 1 2009, 07:10 AM
At 14 strength, an extra 2 strength will add about 12% to your damage. And since the strength bonus is a percentage, the more damage you do the more of an effect it will have.
Like they said, if you think the fight will be short enough, use it at the beginning. If you think it will last longer, use it before doing a large amount of damage, like with dsb.
Cooper
Jul 1 2009, 04:24 PM
If you turn fury on more than once per hour, it takes 500 endurance to put up.
Trici
Jul 1 2009, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Jul 1 2009, 11:24 AM)

If you turn fury on more than once per hour, it takes 500 endurance to put up.
I thought it was willpower.
shalishaska
Jul 1 2009, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (Trici @ Jul 1 2009, 12:54 PM)

QUOTE (Cooper @ Jul 1 2009, 11:24 AM)

If you turn fury on more than once per hour, it takes 500 endurance to put up.
I thought it was willpower.

QUOTE
This will allow you to temporarily raise your strength with 2 points, for no more than a total of 1/6th of each Achaean day. It can be used once a day without cost, but if you turn it off and turn it back on within the same Achaean day, you will incur a cost of 500 willpower each time you turn it back on. Your endurance losses will be significantly higher while Fury is active.
Deladan
Jul 1 2009, 09:08 PM
It wouldn't be too hard to code into my dsb queue
#CLASS {Deladan Stuff|Attacking|DSB}
#ALIAS dsbqueue {
#IF (@disembowel=1 & @balance=1 & @equilibrium=1)
disembowel
disembowel=0
}
#REGEX {^With a vicious snarl you carve a merciless swathe through the steaming guts of} {disembowel=0:Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You have no victim impaled to be able to perform a disembowelment} {disembowel=0;Fury OFf}
#REGEX {^Blood bubbles and froths from (\w+)'s mouth as (?:she|he) gasps (?:his|her) last breath and slides off the} {disembowel=0;Fury Off}
#REGEX {^With a snarl of contempt, you allow (\w+) to slide free of your weapon} {disembowel=0;Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You have slain (.+)} {disembowel=0; Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You draw your blade back and plunge it deep into the body of} {
Fury
disembowel=1
Balance=0
Equilibrium=0}
#CLASS 0
Just add the alias to your balance and eq tracking on your prompt script and have fun
Sidonia
Jul 1 2009, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (Deladan @ Jul 1 2009, 09:08 PM)

It wouldn't be too hard to code into my dsb queue
#CLASS {Deladan Stuff|Attacking|DSB}
#ALIAS dsbqueue {
#IF (@disembowel=1 & @balance=1 & @equilibrium=1)
disembowel
disembowel=0
}
#REGEX {^With a vicious snarl you carve a merciless swathe through the steaming guts of} {disembowel=0:Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You have no victim impaled to be able to perform a disembowelment} {disembowel=0;Fury OFf}
#REGEX {^Blood bubbles and froths from (\w+)'s mouth as (?:she|he) gasps (?:his|her) last breath and slides off the} {disembowel=0;Fury Off}
#REGEX {^With a snarl of contempt, you allow (\w+) to slide free of your weapon} {disembowel=0;Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You have slain (.+)} {disembowel=0; Fury Off}
#REGEX {^You draw your blade back and plunge it deep into the body of} {
Fury
disembowel=1
Balance=0
Equilibrium=0}
#CLASS 0
Just add the alias to your balance and eq tracking on your prompt script and have fun
Everytime you impale and don't get off a dsb, that's gonna cost you WP
Cooper
Jul 1 2009, 10:00 PM
You're over complicated things.
Make an alias called 'imp'
Make this alias do this: stand;impale @target;disembowel @target
Turn on mastery/fury at the beginning of the fight.
When an impale opportunity comes up, type 'imp', and hold down the enter button until the dsb goes off. Gag spam messages that will occur.
You don't need a disembowel queue, that is dumb.
shalishaska
Jul 1 2009, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (Cooper @ Jul 1 2009, 04:00 PM)

Make an alias called 'imp'
Make this alias do this: stand;impale @target;disembowel @target
Turn on mastery/fury at the beginning of the fight.
When an impale opportunity comes up, type 'imp', and hold down the enter button until the dsb goes off. Gag spam messages that will occur.
That's exactly what I do.
Mishgul
Jul 1 2009, 11:45 PM
yeah i do what Cooper does.
Exelethril
Jul 2 2009, 05:45 AM
Being a knight is really complicated
Eshmaki
Jul 6 2009, 10:13 AM
Thats what everyone does ^^
Mishgul
Jul 6 2009, 10:28 AM
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 2 2009, 06:45 AM)

Being a knight is really complicated

Being a good knight is kind of complex. You can do pretty well with just kalmia, curare, gecko, prefarar and xentio though.
Saadya
Jul 6 2009, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Jul 6 2009, 12:28 PM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 2 2009, 06:45 AM)

Being a knight is really complicated

Being a good knight is kind of complex. You can do pretty well with just kalmia, curare, gecko, prefarar and xentio though.
Yeah ask Goryllin.
rledaman
Jul 8 2009, 01:01 AM
Aww, another admirer. How cute. *rufflehair Saadya*
Draekar
Jul 8 2009, 06:41 AM
QUOTE (Saadya @ Jul 7 2009, 07:19 AM)

QUOTE (Mishgul @ Jul 6 2009, 12:28 PM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 2 2009, 06:45 AM)

Being a knight is really complicated

Being a good knight is kind of complex. You can do pretty well with just kalmia, curare, gecko, prefarar and xentio though.
Yeah ask Goryllin.
Goryllin, you should be offended by the lack of aconite, delph and darkshade in that list of venoms
Trevize
Jul 8 2009, 06:49 AM
QUOTE (Draekar @ Jul 8 2009, 02:41 AM)

Goryllin, you should be offended by the lack of
aconite, delph and darkshade in that list of venoms

Yes. Aconite is the ultimate venom if you're dealing with a limited amount.

Aconite.
Gorlasintan
Jul 8 2009, 06:49 AM
10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Exelethril
Jul 8 2009, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Jul 8 2009, 02:49 AM)

10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Really?
Just envenom both weapons and keep dsling then?
Draekar
Jul 8 2009, 07:15 AM
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 8 2009, 07:09 PM)

QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Jul 8 2009, 02:49 AM)

10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Really?
Just envenom both weapons and keep dsling then?
Yes, but it is only a bard skill. Gorlasintan got it put through in his last classlead before he changed class.
Entaro
Jul 8 2009, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (Draekar @ Jul 8 2009, 08:15 AM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 8 2009, 07:09 PM)

QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Jul 8 2009, 02:49 AM)

10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Really?
Just envenom both weapons and keep dsling then?
Yes, but it is only a bard skill. Gorlasintan got it put through in his last classlead before he changed class.
I'M the frigging classlead!
Mishgul
Jul 8 2009, 11:46 AM
What is a bard?
Synbios
Jul 8 2009, 01:26 PM
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Jul 8 2009, 07:46 PM)

What is a bard?
A miserable pile of songs! But enough talk. Have at ye!
Talesinger
Jul 8 2009, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (Entaro @ Jul 8 2009, 12:45 PM)

QUOTE (Draekar @ Jul 8 2009, 08:15 AM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 8 2009, 07:09 PM)

QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Jul 8 2009, 02:49 AM)

10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Really?
Just envenom both weapons and keep dsling then?
Yes, but it is only a bard skill. Gorlasintan got it put through in his last classlead before he changed class.
I'M the frigging classlead!
LOL, it took a while for me to figure that out.
jarrel
Jul 8 2009, 05:36 PM
Venoms depend entirely on whether you can stack or not, if you re on the high end (soulpiercer speed) you should just stack venoms and make sure you add darkshade euphorbia as well (euphorbia does massive damage since its %age and darkshade complements euphorbia as a queue + it ends up an instakill if they dont cure it). Add kelp venoms + prefarar in the queue before the ginseng ones and you ll be doing a whole lot more damage than you ever dreamt of. If you're slow end speed...gg,bb,suicide,reroll. Or ask Dakeyras for tips and do the exact opposite of what he says.
Draekar
Jul 8 2009, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (Entaro @ Jul 8 2009, 11:45 PM)

QUOTE (Draekar @ Jul 8 2009, 08:15 AM)

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jul 8 2009, 07:09 PM)

QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Jul 8 2009, 02:49 AM)

10 doses of aconite in as many seconds is an instakill.
Really?
Just envenom both weapons and keep dsling then?
Yes, but it is only a bard skill. Gorlasintan got it put through in his last classlead before he changed class.
I'M the frigging classlead!
So are you taking responsibility for the Aconite instakill
Arelas
Jul 9 2009, 08:23 AM
Jarrel, you're behind the times; Soulpiercers are slow these days. Skarash's shop has eight rapiers with 230+ speed, and I believe someone forged a 251 at some point.
How long is darkshade's instakill?
Trevize
Jul 9 2009, 08:26 AM
QUOTE (Arelas @ Jul 9 2009, 04:23 AM)

How long is darkshade's instakill?
Too long.
Entaro
Jul 9 2009, 12:09 PM
When I was Runewarden I nearly had Arkantos destroyed by Darkshade. Was on the final message before the death but he cured out just in time
Mishgul
Jul 9 2009, 12:32 PM
72 seconds for Darkshade to kill afaik. Euphorbia stacks loads though so if that stuck they'd probably die earlier.
shalishaska
Jul 10 2009, 05:43 PM
QUOTE (Arelas @ Jul 9 2009, 02:23 AM)

Jarrel, you're behind the times; Soulpiercers are slow these days. Skarash's shop has eight rapiers with 230+ speed, and I believe someone forged a 251 at some point.
Those are exceptional rapiers forged over a very long period of time, and don't come anywhere close to soulpiercers in damage or accuracy. SP's are still the gold standard.
Teg
Jul 10 2009, 08:12 PM
QUOTE (Arelas @ Jul 9 2009, 09:23 AM)

Jarrel, you're behind the times; Soulpiercers are slow these days. Skarash's shop has eight rapiers with 230+ speed, and I believe someone forged a 251 at some point.
How long is darkshade's instakill?
Really long, the only time it ever worked was on Geraint
Mishgul
Jul 10 2009, 08:17 PM
an apostate killed me with it once

but it was either that or being locked and I was a shaman raja so i was screwed to begin with.
Draekar
Jul 10 2009, 10:29 PM
Darkshade is not always prioritised to high, and anyone with a reasonable amount of speed who is stacking and working towards a lock has a good chance of sticking it long enough.
euphorbia is pretty sexy too, not as sexy as getting pref to stick but still...
Snareman_kindfire
Jul 10 2009, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (Arelas @ Jul 9 2009, 03:23 AM)

Jarrel, you're behind the times; Soulpiercers are slow these days. Skarash's shop has eight rapiers with 230+ speed, and I believe someone forged a 251 at some point.
How long is darkshade's instakill?
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Jul 9 2009, 07:32 AM)

72 seconds for Darkshade to kill afaik. Euphorbia stacks loads though so if that stuck they'd probably die earlier.
I thought it was 45 seconds...
And yeah, soulpiercers are behind the times, they really really are. Jarrel just come back dammit and stop talking crap and do it IC
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