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Deladan
What classes do you feel need upgrading or downgrading in terms of combat abilities ?
Rynn
Axekick needs major buffing.
rukimoro
..wat
Cooper
Yeh, Ruki. Monks have been hit by the nerf stick an enormous amount of times. Its fairly difficult for monks to kill people 1v1 now - "we" have resorted to truelocking/damage locking with throwing axes to kill opponents.

"we" = me and spire
Darroth
Lol I bet Deladan's in ACC.
Mishgul
Fez is in the ACC
Spire
Upgrade Shaman Dagaz.

Downgrade Bard Hallelujah.

Downgrade Divertimento/Reel combo.

Upgrade Mind Lock.

Change Shaman Hugalaz back to previous, if only to let it hit one person at a time.
Rynn
Oh, and in addition to a major buff to axekick, TRB needs to be put back in.
rukimoro
QUOTE (Cooper @ Jun 25 2009, 10:30 AM) *
Yeh, Ruki. Monks have been hit by the nerf stick an enormous amount of times. Its fairly difficult for monks to kill people 1v1 now - "we" have resorted to truelocking/damage locking with throwing axes to kill opponents.

"we" = me and spire


I was responding tothe op, i should have made that clearer.

My point is that this is roughly the 233rd topic that deladan has made about combat, and this topic will go nowhere, just like the previous 232.
rledaman
Make paladins useful.

Are there even any paladin fighters left?

Make Voy or one of the two Paladins that fight the Classlead, even if they dont know much, atleast paladins will have a voice for them. And can be taught by the other classleads how not to be stupid. (hopefully).
Exelethril
Something's wrong with Deladan
Voy
QUOTE (rledaman @ Jun 25 2009, 04:17 AM) *
Make paladins useful.

Are there even any paladin fighters left?

Make Voy or one of the two Paladins that fight the Classlead, even if they dont know much, atleast paladins will have a voice for them. And can be taught by the other classleads how not to be stupid. (hopefully).


My ignorance is supposed to be a secret you jerk.

Anyways, class balance isn't so bad currently (all due credit to the admin). There are a few less than powerful classes, but no really poor ones (aside from druids, perhaps). They should just tweak druids, then move on and focus on creating scenarios where more people desire to get involved in fighting instead.
Hathrael
Paladins could use something, they're not really any match for runewardens and infernals now..
Cooper
If a Paladin and Runewarden of equal skill fight, the Paladin will win.
Mishgul
I think Paladin's have a greater ability to DPS and more ability to get creative. Plus rites are a pain in the backside. Though I think Nairat is pretty powerful on the runewarden side for both transfixing and freezing. Both classes are pretty gimped though compared to infernals.
zephyros
Nerf Serpent stealing, or give occultist their stealing ability back. Ordering balance is stupid - of course im biased.
Balynne
QUOTE (zephyros @ Jun 25 2009, 07:02 AM) *
Nerf Serpent stealing, or give occultist their stealing ability back. Ordering balance is stupid - of course im biased.


God I hope you're kidding.
Entaro
Hallelujah needs upgrading.

Vibrato should cause level 2 breaks instead of level 1.

Hmm...DFA should probably go through shield and instakill too.

I agree!
Mishgul
Apostates should be able to evileye slickness and disruption
Exelethril
Smites need to do more damage.

Absolve should be at 80% of max mana.

Hmm..angels shouldnt run out of power.

I agree!
Sena
Shamans need some upgrades too. Curses should be on their own balance, and thurisaz shouldn't be restricted to the same area. Also, totems should be able to hit anyone who uses farsight or other locating abilities to see the room.
Synbios
Add Bladefire skills to a Paladin's devotion tree.

And make Bladefire Soulstealers dual-wieldable.
Palanor
Please give my class ridiculously overpowered upgrades for my own gratification.
Boz
Command should be the first skill you get in hypnosis.
stuart
QUOTE (Voy @ Jun 25 2009, 04:31 AM) *
Anyways, class balance isn't so bad currently (all due credit to the admin). There are a few less than powerful classes, but no really poor ones (aside from druids, perhaps). They should just tweak druids, then move on and focus on creating scenarios where more people desire to get involved in fighting instead.



Change groves back to the way they were.

I know it is just as likely to happen as changing the forums back but i can still hope.

closedeyes.gif

Please have more scenarios to get people to want to be involved in fighting.
Gorlasintan
New groves >> old groves.
stuart
For druids or for everyone else?
Gorlasintan
Both.
stuart
You are probaly right but i liked it more, most people i have been talking to like the advantages of panacea and such abilities to be used outside groves.

The old abilities did used to mean that i couldn't kill anything outside of a grove, but lets be honest what has changed. smile.gif
Deladan
My personal opinion is that DSB needs to be changed, It either one-shots or takes an insane amount to kill someone with. Examples here being against Monk, Priest, Sylvan and Magi class. The way I'm looking at it is this, I can understand you not dying from 1 DSB in a fight, but 2 - 5 dsbs later you're not dead is a problem. And any time I DSB someone twice back to back, they should be dead. Not in the red and bleeding insane amounts. Dead.
Mishgul
why are you trying to disembowel monks priest sylvans and magi?
Deladan
Cause I'm a runewarden.....
Deladan
And I've heard from a lot of more skilled fighters that it's hard as - to kill as a runewarden. So this isn't just coming from me.

sad.gif Meh anyways
Exelethril
QUOTE (Deladan @ Jun 25 2009, 01:17 PM) *
My personal opinion is that DSB needs to be changed, It either one-shots or takes an insane amount to kill someone with. Examples here being against Monk, Priest, Sylvan and Magi class. The way I'm looking at it is this, I can understand you not dying from 1 DSB in a fight, but 2 - 5 dsbs later you're not dead is a problem. And any time I DSB someone twice back to back, they should be dead. Not in the red and bleeding insane amounts. Dead.


No.
Dexodro
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Jun 25 2009, 03:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Deladan @ Jun 25 2009, 01:17 PM) *
My personal opinion is that DSB needs to be changed, It either one-shots or takes an insane amount to kill someone with. Examples here being against Monk, Priest, Sylvan and Magi class. The way I'm looking at it is this, I can understand you not dying from 1 DSB in a fight, but 2 - 5 dsbs later you're not dead is a problem. And any time I DSB someone twice back to back, they should be dead. Not in the red and bleeding insane amounts. Dead.


No.


you suck at this game.
Rynn
QUOTE (Deladan @ Jun 25 2009, 12:49 PM) *
And I've heard from a lot of more skilled fighters that it's hard as - to kill as a runewarden. So this isn't just coming from me.

sad.gif Meh anyways

Aren't you an artefacted runewarden? If so, then no, it's really not hard to kill people unless you are just randomly targeting (or not!) and randomly applying venoms. Hrmmmmm.
Saadya
Deladan Seir (male Satyr).

Tsk, tsk. What kind of race is that? I guess it's hard because you're not being conformist and going the easiest way as troll. Or raja.
Sidonia
QUOTE (Rynn @ Jun 26 2009, 01:00 AM) *
Aren't you an artefacted runewarden? If so, then no, it's really not hard to kill people unless you are just randomly targeting (or not!) and randomly applying venoms. Hrmmmmm.

Mostly (possibly entirely) defensive arties, though it's not through a weak class that Deladan doesn't kill people (no offence!)
Deladan
Meh It's not like I'm not trying to learn, that's why I post here every few months *shrug*
Sidonia
QUOTE (Deladan @ Jun 26 2009, 08:01 AM) *
Meh It's not like I'm not trying to learn, that's why I post here every few months *shrug*

I wasn't saying you're bad, you just need to watch your rebounding/parrying/targetting more.
Deladan
Need to make a rebounding counter or something hrm
rebounding is what 6 seconds

so it would be

#REGEX {^(\w+) takes a long drag off (?:his|her) pipe\.$} {#sub {%ansi( 15)~ +[%ansi( 43)+++%1 SMOKED PIPE+++%ansi( 15)~]+}}

Now the last time I tried a timer I used #sayp with a wait system with was really meh. yeah I couldn't figure out how to make a timer on zmud I fail nothing new. anyways

and this is where I get confused I can figure out how to use the tick timer in preferences but uh I don't want it spamming me like that every time someone smokes a pipe and I don't have them enemied or targeted. Way too much strain heh
Mishgul
get a pair of broadswords and go hippy.
shalishaska
Rebounding is eight seconds.

Instead of triggering it off any pipe smoked, it would be better to have it after their rebounding disappears. I don't know how to do it in zscript, but in LUA it would be something like:

CODE
^(.*?)\'s aura of weapons rebounding dissapears\.$

DoAfter (7, print("%1's rebounding about to come up!!"))


which would display that message seven seconds after their rebounding goes down.
Eshmaki
Satyr is one of the better Knight race.
Exelethril
QUOTE (Eshmaki @ Jun 26 2009, 10:13 AM) *
Satyr is one of the better Knight race.


I think either Mhun, troll or Raja is best. Satyr is kinda mediocre.
Eshmaki
Troll is one of the worst. Raja is for level 90+ or artied. Mhun is nice if you go for speed.
Exelethril
Yep, I tried fighting a raja runewarden with a ton of artefacts and two soulpiercers.. didnt go well sad.gif
Deladan
aura of weapons rebounding disappears\.$
#alarm +7 {#sayp rebounding coming}


Eh that's what I could come up with the quickest
shalishaska
QUOTE (Eshmaki @ Jun 26 2009, 08:41 AM) *
Troll is one of the worst. Raja is for level 90+ or artied. Mhun is nice if you go for speed.


I'm hoping this was sarcastic. Troll makes for an extremely effective knight.

Edit: 777th post.
Mishgul
Troll is probably one of the best, especially for infernals.
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