Horuce
Mar 10 2009, 11:07 PM
Ok, anyone who's ever talked to Horuce know's his orgins he doesn't hide them at all ie from the desert and I've come to a problem. I don't know which God to have him really worship, I was really wanting to get into Neroes order even spent alot of time talking to people in cyrene how ever I sent all the messages and tells I was supposed to (three weeks ago and never got anything back.)
So shrugged it off out of character and Horuce just thinking that a god of the sea wasn't good for a desert dweller anyways. My problem now lies in I'm not sure which direction to go because in my back story I had Horuce's tribe worshiped Kastalia, purpose being she was a goddess of fresh water. Desert people worshiping Water it fits. I now am looking over and trying to figure out what would be a idea one for a desert dweller to worship, any idea's thoughts?
rukimoro
Mar 10 2009, 11:15 PM
All Hail Neroes!
Horuce
Mar 10 2009, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (rukimoro @ Mar 10 2009, 06:15 PM)

All Hail Neroes!
Other then the fact that I agree, I didn't get any response from his order sadly.

So I now have to look else where,
Trici
Mar 10 2009, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Horuce @ Mar 10 2009, 06:22 PM)

QUOTE (rukimoro @ Mar 10 2009, 06:15 PM)

All Hail Neroes!
Other then the fact that I agree, I didn't get any response from his order sadly.

So I now have to look else where,
Sarcastic Rukimoro is sarcastic.
Don't feel bad about the order thing, they kinda ignored me too.
Sena
Mar 10 2009, 11:33 PM
For nomadic-ish desert people, I'd pick Khalas. For a more settled tribe, I'm not sure. Worshiping some sort of water god(dess) does sound like a good idea.
Quoren
Mar 10 2009, 11:42 PM
While I agree that worshiping a water goddess would make sense, you may wish to avoid the conspicuous lack of dramatic roleplay which lies in the direction of Kastalia, so here are some alternatives:
-Mithraea (Goddess of the Sun. If you're in a desert, the sun holds the power of life and death.)
-Ourania (Goddess of the Moon. Compared to the Sun, the moon seems like a kinder mistress, no? Why not worship that which gives you life, not death?)
-Artemis (If you really want a nature goddess. Wrath of nature? Desert? Sounds okay to me.)
Jonathin
Mar 10 2009, 11:44 PM
QUOTE (Horuce @ Mar 10 2009, 07:07 PM)

Ok, anyone who's ever talked to Horuce know's his orgins he doesn't hide them at all ie from the desert and I've come to a problem. I don't know which God to have him really worship, I was really wanting to get into Neroes order even spent alot of time talking to people in cyrene how ever I sent all the messages and tells I was supposed to (three weeks ago and never got anything back.)
So shrugged it off out of character and Horuce just thinking that a god of the sea wasn't good for a desert dweller anyways. My problem now lies in I'm not sure which direction to go because in my back story I had Horuce's tribe worshiped Kastalia, purpose being she was a goddess of fresh water. Desert people worshiping Water it fits. I now am looking over and trying to figure out what would be a idea one for a desert dweller to worship, any idea's thoughts?

But seriously, I have no idea what you said. I tried to read it and got lost about 1 run-on sentence into your post.
Eurulis
Mar 10 2009, 11:53 PM
Vastar would be a pretty decent choice. Able to bring a refreshing breeze or a duststorm. I can post more in a moment!
revolg
Mar 11 2009, 12:25 AM
I would say Hermes.
Iocun
Mar 11 2009, 12:32 AM
Iocun has a nomadic/desert background as well, which is one of the things that led him to joining Kastalia's order. For once because of the "preciousness of fresh water" thing, but also for the whole "nomad/wanderer/explorer" idea. Before Kastalia existed, he had considered Mithraea's order for quite a long time, but he never joined, partly because this order was too Church-Good aligned for his taste.
The whole water thing was very ambiguous for him though. On one hand there was a fundamental appreciation of it as the giver of life, on the other hand he was also always a bit afraid of large masses of water, which is why he'd never have joined Lord Neraeos' order. That was also my greatest burden when ships came in and the reason why he stayed far from seafaring for decades. Eventually though I forced Iocun to overcome his fear, and by now he's even grown fond (while still slightly afraid) of the sea.
Neraeos
Mar 11 2009, 12:59 AM
You may wish to be a little more proactive when you attempt to join an Order, Horuce. Contrarily to Houses and Cities, many Orders really do not care to coddle petitioners along. If you wish to join and succeed, you must really show that you want it. I tend to pay considerable attention to those that are flagged as potential order members. If you have not found a way to raise such a flag, which is a very simple process, particularly in the Nerai, you may have the wrong idea of how Orders work.
Remember, you are the one supplicating yourself to the god. Don't expect the god, nor the god's order, to try and woo you. Make yourself known.
Cheers,
Horuce
Mar 11 2009, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (Quoren @ Mar 10 2009, 06:42 PM)

While I agree that worshiping a water goddess would make sense, you may wish to avoid the conspicuous lack of dramatic roleplay which lies in the direction of Kastalia, so here are some alternatives:
-Mithraea (Goddess of the Sun. If you're in a desert, the sun holds the power of life and death.)
-Ourania (Goddess of the Moon. Compared to the Sun, the moon seems like a kinder mistress, no? Why not worship that which gives you life, not death?)
-Artemis (If you really want a nature goddess. Wrath of nature? Desert? Sounds okay to me.)
I do agree with Mithraea and I've looked over her quite a bit studying OOC. Being a enemy of Shallam and church along with Horuces back story really prohibits him getting to involved with Her. Ourania now, she is something I've also looked into but never persued.
QUOTE (Eurulis @ Mar 10 2009, 06:53 PM)

Vastar would be a pretty decent choice. Able to bring a refreshing breeze or a duststorm. I can post more in a moment!
I did look into Vastar as well. I like his idea's of freedom...but I've, before talking to Pilts, sacirficied Alot of his Atavians to Neraeos.
QUOTE (Neraeos @ Mar 10 2009, 07:59 PM)

You may wish to be a little more proactive when you attempt to join an Order, Horuce. Contrarily to Houses and Cities, many Orders really do not care to coddle petitioners along. If you wish to join and succeed, you must really show that you want it. I tend to pay considerable attention to those that are flagged as potential order members. If you have not found a way to raise such a flag, which is a very simple process, particularly in the Nerai, you may have the wrong idea of how Orders work.
Remember, you are the one supplicating yourself to the god. Don't expect the god, nor the god's order, to try and woo you. Make yourself known.
Cheers,
Now to Neraeos. I honestly didn't have any much recourse, I spent several sessions talking to one about the Sea. I talked to BLujix, messaged Asara. I knew not to message you, and I couldn't send anymore messages to Asara for fear of just becoming a bother.So I couldn't even join the Nerai Now from 70 to 80, offered to Neraeos's shrines. and the above I just ran out of options. So now looking at the other gods. Thanks for the answers so far.
Asara Eslofe
Mar 11 2009, 01:54 AM
QUOTE (Horuce @ Mar 10 2009, 09:25 PM)

QUOTE (Neraeos @ Mar 10 2009, 07:59 PM)

You may wish to be a little more proactive when you attempt to join an Order, Horuce. Contrarily to Houses and Cities, many Orders really do not care to coddle petitioners along. If you wish to join and succeed, you must really show that you want it. I tend to pay considerable attention to those that are flagged as potential order members. If you have not found a way to raise such a flag, which is a very simple process, particularly in the Nerai, you may have the wrong idea of how Orders work.
Remember, you are the one supplicating yourself to the god. Don't expect the god, nor the god's order, to try and woo you. Make yourself known.
Cheers,
Now to Neraeos. I honestly didn't have any much recourse, I spent several sessions talking to one about the Sea. I talked to BLujix, messaged Asara. I knew not to message you, and I couldn't send anymore messages to Asara for fear of just becoming a bother.So I couldn't even join the Nerai Now from 70 to 80, offered to Neraeos's shrines. and the above I just ran out of options. So now looking at the other gods. Thanks for the answers so far.
Well, as my name has been invoked, I would like to apologize if it seems you were ignored. Unfortunately, I honestly cannot remember you sending me any messages.

(Or Trici for that matter.) The supplicant procedure is very straightforward to anyone who has their heart in it, but I won't be elaborating upon the process further here. I do get a lot of messages yes, and while I appreciate the gesture of not wanting to be a bother, it looks like that assumption impeded your progress. I cannot keep track of everyone personally as well as I'd like to, so you must make yourself known. Best of luck to you in searching for other Dieties.
P.S. If you mean BLujix to be Blujixapug, he is not in the Order.
Eurulis
Mar 11 2009, 02:26 AM
QUOTE (Horuce @ Mar 10 2009, 09:25 PM)

QUOTE (Eurulis @ Mar 10 2009, 06:53 PM)

Vastar would be a pretty decent choice. Able to bring a refreshing breeze or a duststorm. I can post more in a moment!
I did look into Vastar as well. I like his idea's of freedom...but I've, before talking to Pilts, sacirficied Alot of his Atavians to Neraeos.
Well, you can always give it a shot, if you want. It's been pretty fun so far.
berenene
Mar 11 2009, 11:18 AM
There is another patron whom you could choose, and one not so obvious a pick. People living in a desert would need to trade and buy with other people in order to get supplies they require, that they would not be able to get elsewhere or more easily, such as those in a city. Also, the wares and resources that are sold by desert people usually can't be found by others, and can bring a lot of money to the tribe/village. In a sense trade is just as important to a desert dwelling people as water. You could choose Prospero
Rangor Corten
Mar 11 2009, 11:21 AM
Artemis could work, you'll have to investigate IC.
Tenebrus
Mar 11 2009, 11:35 AM
A good desert diety would be a cactus for breakfast, a cactus for lunch and a sensible dinner. Hail Neroes!
Dinkybarrel
Mar 11 2009, 11:46 AM
Hey now, I like my aloe vera yoghurt in the morning.
Blujixapug
Mar 11 2009, 11:59 AM
Pandora would be best because icecream is the best desert and she is the most icecreamy LOL.
Personally, I wouldn't pick any god for this. No god is God of the Desert. You can draw vague parallels, but they aren't really there. I would pick a god who seemed good and enjoyable for other reasons, and I would keep being from the desert as a separate aspect of my character. You can still play it up, with a description, clothing and jewelery, mannerisms/emotes, and so on, but you can have a multi-faceted character.
Or you could invent your own Goddess or spirit pantheon. Come up with names and concepts and realms and symbols. Pray, make offerings, perform rites. Maybe you make a yearly pilgrimage to go and pour out a flask of water in the centre of the desert in honour of Selegrait, the Scorpion Maiden. Or something. There's an Egyptian snake goddess called Meretseger, "she who loves silence", who protected the tombs according to wikipedia. How cool is that.
Jhaeli
Mar 11 2009, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (Blujixapug @ Mar 11 2009, 06:59 AM)

Personally, I wouldn't pick any god for this. No god is God of the Desert. You can draw vague parallels, but they aren't really there. I would pick a god who seemed good and enjoyable for other reasons, and I would keep being from the desert as a separate aspect of my character. You can still play it up, with a description, clothing and jewelery, mannerisms/emotes, and so on, but you can have a multi-faceted character.
Had Blujixapug not posted it first, this is what I would have said. Pick a God that relates to another part of your personality and that you can make a comfortable tie to your desert background if you'd like. Does he still live in the desert? If he lives in a city now, he may have taken on their ways depending on how long he has been there, and thus their deities.
zaoria
Mar 12 2009, 12:02 AM
Depending on the path you wanted to go...
Pentharian, maybe? The Anointed are very much entrenched in the desert as far as their history goes, if you ever decided to go Churchie.
Azu
Mar 12 2009, 04:29 AM
QUOTE (Blujixapug @ Mar 11 2009, 07:59 AM)

Pandora would be best because icecream is the best desert and she is the most icecreamy LOL.
I -ing lol'd
Eluned
Mar 12 2009, 04:51 AM
Indrani's got a temple smack dab in the desert.
flair
Mar 12 2009, 05:06 AM
a lot of history with Babel and the desert, but all of it before Babel actually came back. Can't claim much connection anymore. But just throwing it out there.
Tenebrus
Mar 12 2009, 10:23 AM
All these Gods with such close desert connections! You shameless proselytists...
Danith
Mar 12 2009, 01:07 PM
I heard a rumor that Apollyon created the desert to cause suffering to clueless travellers.
Shars
Mar 12 2009, 01:12 PM
I heard a rumour that the desert was created when Lord Neraeos removed the ocean water from it, and that that is the reason that prickly pears grow there. The desert is an ocean floor...
Hipsana
Mar 12 2009, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Shars @ Mar 12 2009, 06:12 AM)

I heard a rumour that the desert was created when Lord Neraeos removed the ocean water from it, and that that is the reason that prickly pears grow there. The desert was an ocean floor...
fix'd
Iocun
Mar 12 2009, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (Hipsana @ Mar 12 2009, 04:31 PM)

QUOTE (Shars @ Mar 12 2009, 06:12 AM)

I heard a rumour that the desert was created when Lord Neraeos removed the ocean water from it, and that that is the reason that prickly pears grow there. The desert was an ocean floor...
fix'd
Every ocean floor is a desert! A desert is defined by having very little precipitation, and have you ever seen it rain on the ocean floor? Eh?
Hipsana
Mar 12 2009, 03:52 PM
I just fix'd the post. No comment on whether or not the Mhojave was ever an ocean.
Rynn
Mar 17 2009, 01:03 AM
You can draw connections between just about any God and the desert. Make your own God and get a following. That'd be cool.
Azu
Mar 17 2009, 03:04 AM
QUOTE (Rynn @ Mar 16 2009, 09:03 PM)

You can draw connections between just about any God and the desert. Make your own God and get a following. That'd be cool.
This.
I bet one could make up a ton of pretty awesome philosophies based on desert life.
Maybe something about enduring/thriving in whatever situation you find yourself in.
Gorlasintan
Mar 17 2009, 03:10 AM
Living in the desert causes one to experience great Suffering.
Azu
Mar 17 2009, 03:13 AM
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Mar 16 2009, 11:10 PM)

Living in the desert causes one to experience great Suffering.
Can I join your campaign please?
Slick
Mar 17 2009, 01:37 PM
Mithraea or Vastar.
zaoria
Mar 17 2009, 06:34 PM
Go look for one of the Anointed and ask them about the desert.
Horuce
Mar 17 2009, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (zaoria @ Mar 17 2009, 01:34 PM)

Go look for one of the Anointed and ask them about the desert.
ROFL..enemied to shallam and church...not to mention every Player I've found from shallam is a *#$#..yea I don't think I will be doing that. I actually abandoned the case and started playing WoW again. So probally won't see me much around here anymore.
Danith
Mar 17 2009, 08:19 PM
zaoria
Mar 17 2009, 08:39 PM
Thank you, Horuce.
Aithne
Mar 24 2009, 03:02 AM
QUOTE (Asara Eslofe @ Mar 10 2009, 05:54 PM)

QUOTE (Horuce @ Mar 10 2009, 09:25 PM)

QUOTE (Neraeos @ Mar 10 2009, 07:59 PM)

You may wish to be a little more proactive when you attempt to join an Order, Horuce. Contrarily to Houses and Cities, many Orders really do not care to coddle petitioners along. If you wish to join and succeed, you must really show that you want it. I tend to pay considerable attention to those that are flagged as potential order members. If you have not found a way to raise such a flag, which is a very simple process, particularly in the Nerai, you may have the wrong idea of how Orders work.
Remember, you are the one supplicating yourself to the god. Don't expect the god, nor the god's order, to try and woo you. Make yourself known.
Cheers,
Now to Neraeos. I honestly didn't have any much recourse, I spent several sessions talking to one about the Sea. I talked to BLujix, messaged Asara. I knew not to message you, and I couldn't send anymore messages to Asara for fear of just becoming a bother.So I couldn't even join the Nerai Now from 70 to 80, offered to Neraeos's shrines. and the above I just ran out of options. So now looking at the other gods. Thanks for the answers so far.
Well, as my name has been invoked, I would like to apologize if it seems you were ignored. Unfortunately, I honestly cannot remember you sending me any messages.

(Or Trici for that matter.) The supplicant procedure is very straightforward to anyone who has their heart in it, but I won't be elaborating upon the process further here. I do get a lot of messages yes, and while I appreciate the gesture of not wanting to be a bother, it looks like that assumption impeded your progress. I cannot keep track of everyone personally as well as I'd like to, so you must make yourself known. Best of luck to you in searching for other Dieties.
P.S. If you mean BLujix to be Blujixapug, he is not in the Order.
I think I once waited to talk to you for something close to six months because "I didn't want to bother you." That was rather dumb of me.
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