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Ilireth
I know that many people have taken it upon themselves, IG, to document and attempt to interpret the Prophet Apollonia's shouts.

While I think it's an exceptionally cool way to interest people into documenting and analyzing history, past the "fun" of the events (For example, remembering that the War of the Underworld was an affair about Ugrach and a continuation of the Slith saga, rather than an excuse to bash each other's heads in), I also wonder sometimes at the validity and consistency/coherency of the prophecies.

What I mean to say is, with a world as diverse and ever-changing as achaea, the Gods, and Maya, must have to intervene at times to ensure that the prophecies come to make sense. I'll give an example: If, for instance, the prophecy of Apollonia regarding the Flaxen-Haired Young Woman bearing the Sceptre of Kings is to come to pass as true, how then does the Garden ensure that the person who embodies that prophecy isn't thwarted? Of course, this begs the question: Are the prophecies of Apollonia, in particular, unavoidable? Most people treat them as so; in retrospect, all the events that have passed seem to fit into the prophecies. Does this mean that the history of Achaea is pre-written? Or is it that we've simply played into the Gardens' plans all along? Also, how do we determine what kind of Prophet preaches the "unavoidable" and "Certain", and which preach the "hopeful"? The one I can think of off the top of my head would be Babel's prophet, Mordanyconus.

I guess I'm simply trying to ascertain the nature of Prophecies past IG devices to encourage thought and enhance the sense of importance when it comes to making decisions. Whether the prophecies of Apollonia contain a more "true" nature to them (although I'm sure even the doomsayer offers two paths to choose from, else it wouldn't be much of a game) or not, I guess I'm looking for more solid footing on which to proceed. Having witnessed some of Apollonia's predictions come to frutition in the pass, I'm unsure if the prophecies are just a device, something to believe in, or if they're the Garden's way of steering history they way they want it to unfold. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance.
Riashain
Prophecy forks. There are always ways for prophecy to take a different line than its initial direction, as the initial direction has several viable paths, including petering out to nothing, and never coming to pass. That is prophecy.
Tenebrus
QUOTE (Ilireth @ Feb 11 2009, 06:26 PM) *
I know that many people have taken it upon themselves, IG, to document and attempt to interpret the Prophet Apollonia's shouts.

While I think it's an exceptionally cool way to interest people into documenting and analyzing history, past the "fun" of the events (For example, remembering that the War of the Underworld was an affair about Ugrach and a continuation of the Slith saga, rather than an excuse to bash each other's heads in), I also wonder sometimes at the validity and consistency/coherency of the prophecies.

What I mean to say is, with a world as diverse and ever-changing as achaea, the Gods, and Maya, must have to intervene at times to ensure that the prophecies come to make sense. I'll give an example: If, for instance, the prophecy of Apollonia regarding the Flaxen-Haired Young Woman bearing the Sceptre of Kings is to come to pass as true, how then does the Garden ensure that the person who embodies that prophecy isn't thwarted? Of course, this begs the question: Are the prophecies of Apollonia, in particular, unavoidable? Most people treat them as so; in retrospect, all the events that have passed seem to fit into the prophecies. Does this mean that the history of Achaea is pre-written? Or is it that we've simply played into the Gardens' plans all along? Also, how do we determine what kind of Prophet preaches the "unavoidable" and "Certain", and which preach the "hopeful"? The one I can think of off the top of my head would be Babel's prophet, Mordanyconus.

I guess I'm simply trying to ascertain the nature of Prophecies past IG devices to encourage thought and enhance the sense of importance when it comes to making decisions. Whether the prophecies of Apollonia contain a more "true" nature to them (although I'm sure even the doomsayer offers two paths to choose from, else it wouldn't be much of a game) or not, I guess I'm looking for more solid footing on which to proceed. Having witnessed some of Apollonia's predictions come to frutition in the pass, I'm unsure if the prophecies are just a device, something to believe in, or if they're the Garden's way of steering history they way they want it to unfold. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

Also, the perspective of the Prophet is such that you can never tell whether she is talking about a farmer having his breakfast or the downfall of an empire. In fact, this has been addressed with Apollonia where it became clear that at least part of the prophecies relate, I think, to her hatred of insects and their effects on crop growth.

Part of the fun is trying to work out the code, what's significant and what isn't. I'm sure there's some teaser stuff in the prophecies that have yet to come to pass, but there's also some red herrings. The ambiguity is important, otherwise not only are they tying their hands as to future events (difficult in a game as open-ended and dynamic as Achaea) but they are leaving themselves open to being completely predicted by anyone who is smart and willing to put in the effort (and Achaea is not short of either kind of player).
berenene
Is there some place where her prophocies have been documented? Either IG or on the Lore archives?
rledaman
Cyrene is overflowing with documents of her prophesies, its a certain person's calling in life to make sure everything that is ever said by a denizen is written down.
Danith
QUOTE (berenene @ Feb 11 2009, 06:06 PM) *
Is there some place where her prophocies have been documented? Either IG or on the Lore archives?

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