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  • CaelanCaelan Posts: 744Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Another whole new avenue of RP called "diseases". This will simulate irl diseases like transmittable stds(like AIDS) and cancer and an opt in insurance system, Makaricare, where 30% of your gold is taxed to join, otherwise you have to pay $70 a month to IRE keep your character alive after x amount of time if you contract the dangerous ones (or perma-death) and $250 to get cured completely.

    Two new professions : legit doctor and naturopath, 2000 credits to get a license for the former, 50 credits to get a license for the latter. Can level up based on how many people you cure, naturopath has a 1% success rate and a 5% chance to make the disease worse.

    Example
    Cancer = (limbs = -2 str) , (head = -2 int), (lungs = incurable asthma)
    AIDS = +1.5 seconds herb balance, -30% sip penalty
    etc
    LOL.  You've been reading Matt's FB feed about things he considered for Starmourn

  • ExelethrilExelethril moar theta decayPosts: 3,106Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Caelan said:
    Another whole new avenue of RP called "diseases". This will simulate irl diseases like transmittable stds(like AIDS) and cancer and an opt in insurance system, Makaricare, where 30% of your gold is taxed to join, otherwise you have to pay $70 a month to IRE keep your character alive after x amount of time if you contract the dangerous ones (or perma-death) and $250 to get cured completely.

    Two new professions : legit doctor and naturopath, 2000 credits to get a license for the former, 50 credits to get a license for the latter. Can level up based on how many people you cure, naturopath has a 1% success rate and a 5% chance to make the disease worse.

    Example
    Cancer = (limbs = -2 str) , (head = -2 int), (lungs = incurable asthma)
    AIDS = +1.5 seconds herb balance, -30% sip penalty
    etc
    LOL.  You've been reading Matt's FB feed about things he considered for Starmourn
    Honestly, nope. I had no idea he was thinking of implementing things like HIV or transmissible spongiform encephalopathies. Just when I thought Starmourn was going to be a disappointment.. maybe it's worth a shot.

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  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,200Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Skye said:
    In all honesty, it's probably the re-opening of the ruins of Seleucar, which as a city, probably promises to be massive. Complete with a giant underground Tomb of Kings dungeon that's just crawling with mongsters. There are also the other fortresses apart from Sirocco, like Aster and Thornwall. Maybe we'll rediscover Durandian Steel which is workable only by Legendary Blacksmiths and all those people who paid hundreds and thousands of gold getting there will finally have something to show off about it. >_>
    Lol. If it was only hundreds and thousands of gold there would be far more Legendary Blacksmiths.
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  • SkyeSkye The Duchess BellaterePosts: 2,588Member, Seafaring Liason @@ - Legendary Achaean
    well you know what I mean. >_>


  • SolnirSolnir Posts: 374Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent

    Last I did the math (around a year ago?) it was 6-8 million gold to reach legendary if you forged the cheapest descriptors possible, depending on CM prices.

  • TahquilTahquil Posts: 3,746Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You poor, poor things :expressionless:
  • ZulahZulah Posts: 655Member @ - Epic Achaean
    I spent 800cr to get legendary from learning the skill same day. I was fortunate enough to get the minister of each city to agree to empty their city comm shops for credits though.


    I think it would be interesting to see all skills usable on denizens. Due to server side curing npc's could feasibly be coded to implement a full affliction system. 
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna bePosts: 3,303Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zulah said:

    I think it would be interesting to see all skills usable on denizens. Due to server side curing npc's could feasibly be coded to implement a full affliction system. 
    This is wrong for so many reasons.
    Huh. Neat.
  • KyrraKyrra Sanctum of the SkyPosts: 4,339Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I only spent 2k credits from Grandmaster to Legendary :/
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  • LiatrisLiatris Posts: 7Member
    PERMADEATH. That would spice things up.

    ...probably the separation of stats from races.
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 472Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Liatris said:
    PERMADEATH. That would spice things up.

    ...probably the separation of stats from races.
    Definitely not the races thing. The current racial system is Achaea's version of separating stats from races. Races used to be one stat build only.  That was the normal for literally more than a decade. The current system, which a lot of newer players have only played under is actually a really great one. Its sensibly done, its as balanced as is reasonable for making sure no one is hardlined into say... troll to be an effective knight class etc. Its definitely not that.
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  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,164Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    They mean you can choose your distribution of 12/12/13/11.

    A lot of people still avoid the 11 Con races, when they might otherwise want to be them for RP reasons.
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  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 472Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    To be clear: I wasn't saying that they might not change races again at any point, but changing them a peg further than they already did definitely isn't "biggest release ever" its just sort of a (senseless*) improvement on what was actually a very big change to races.

    * Races are fine, people can avoid the 11 con. Races shouldn't all appeal to everyone and some races make not sense as a "choose what you want", like there is no reason for there to be a 15str base stat Siren. There is no RP or dev reason to make races all equilateral in that way.
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  • KietKiet Posts: 2,149Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited October 20
    Current system isn't great tbh, some races are still a lot better than others. I don't see a point to having races dictated by pk/bashing reasons.

    Pretty much every modern game has moved away from racial choice being more than cosmetic/lore.

    People can say 'but the rp is stronger that way' but there's really nothing compelling rp-wise about atavians being the best serpents and literally every non-damage caster class being best as a dwarf.
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  • KyrraKyrra Sanctum of the SkyPosts: 4,339Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    As a knight class, I’m frustrated that atavians have crap stats but I’ve always sucked it up because of RP reasons. I’ve never once race changed. I dislike that even after buying artefacts, my character is subpar compared to xorans or trolls.

    There are atavian denizens that are strong knight archetypes that are really inspiring though. The Arcadian Royal Guard for examples, or the Stormshapers... those guys are two-handed atavians that give me butterflies when they decimate the crap out of someone. That’s what I want to be but it doesn’t seem feasible with what is currently available. 
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  • KietKiet Posts: 2,149Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Right, when mhun/atavian knight npcs are extremely strong, it throws out the idea that having player mhun/atavian knights would somehow ruin immersion. If anything, all it does is limit people's RP if they want to be optimal.
    ShirszaeAldwic
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 472Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Eh, to be clear - I'm not saying things couldn't be better.

    I'm just saying there's no reason for a troll and a siren to have the same exact available base stats, my comment was really at the "choose your own adventure" thing - not at whether or not things could be improved at all. Not that they couldn't be adjusted a little more and definitely not saying its perfect. Being fine =/= no room for improvement (and my senseless improvement was also directed at the "choose your own adventure" thing, not whether or not there could be tweaking to current system).
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  • NazihkNazihk Posts: 745Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Kyrra said:
    As a knight class, I’m frustrated that atavians have crap stats but I’ve always sucked it up because of RP reasons. I’ve never once race changed. I dislike that even after buying artefacts, my character is subpar compared to xorans or trolls.
    All non-Xorans are inferior to Xorans.
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  • ShirszaeShirszae Caer WitrinPosts: 2,790Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I don't see why a Siren and a Troll could not have the same strength, though. Adventurers are already exceptional by virtue of being adventurers. If an adventurer troll and an adventurer siren have the same stats, its not a comment on how trolls and sirens the world over have the same strength. Its just means that the siren is exceptional (as all adventurers are meant to be, to a point)

    Most trolls will still continue to be bulky, intimidating monsters and most sirens will continue to be lissome, beautiful things. All it'd do is not hamper the people who want to break the mold and play a Siren baddass knight or the like.

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  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 472Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    At that point I would say we need a system that allows for taking race AND class into account then, rather than just race. But when you equalize things across like that you get a whole bunch of special snowflakes and mary sue/gary stu types.
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  • KietKiet Posts: 2,149Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You can't talk about mary sues/stus when the literal npcs already do that (mhun knights, atavian royal guards, that tall dwarf).

    It's also not really that big a deal, people will just make a troll that looks like a lissome elf instead if they can't be hot + strong race.
  • TaryiusTaryius Posts: 303Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Shirszae said:
    I don't see why a Siren and a Troll could not have the same strength, though. Adventurers are already exceptional by virtue of being adventurers. If an adventurer troll and an adventurer siren have the same stats, its not a comment on how trolls and sirens the world over have the same strength. Its just means that the siren is exceptional (as all adventurers are meant to be, to a point)

    Most trolls will still continue to be bulky, intimidating monsters and most sirens will continue to be lissome, beautiful things. All it'd do is not hamper the people who want to break the mold and play a Siren baddass knight or the like.
    My issue is not that there should'nt be exceptions or that Sirens cant be exceptionally strong knights it is that you will start to get a divide between description and stats. 

    Then you start to see stats become more OOC then they are now.

    No issue with a strong Siren. Its the lithe, fragile sirens with alabaster skin and sapphire eyes that overwhelm me with an insatiable lust somehow being as strong as a 7 foot, muscular Troll that throws me off.
    Hataru
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,149Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Who cares. People just make hot trolls instead.
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 472Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Disagree. Disagree heartily because the difference is you're talking about whether or not a civilization on their own (Mog, ~cloud lands~) can have their own highly trained guards vs. random siren girl who was raised in random village x being super stronk at age 18 fresh out the portals with no training (thus why I said there is an argument for being able to choose race + class influenced stats). 

    Thing is "make a troll that looks like a lissome elf instead if they can't be hot + strong race" RP and acting like a 5'2" siren and a 7'0" troll can/should have the same natural base stats can both be bad (they are).
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  • TaryiusTaryius Posts: 303Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I'm all for any change that makes hot trolls, mmmmm.

    Need more hotties like @Titonus around.
    Titonus
  • FrederichFrederich Posts: 1,243Member @ - Epic Achaean
    We have 19-20 year olds attaining dragon, Hataru.

    30-40 year old dawnlords that can whoop a 200-300+ year old Tyrannus.

    "Special snowflakes" really doesn't fucking matter, because RP wise?  Adventurers are special snowflakes.  We're people with the spark of adventure, or more inclined towards murdering thousands upon thousands of people so we can be a dragon and laze about forever.

    Know what race sucks, especially so right now?  Satyr.  Horrible con, okay-ish dex, but not enough dex to make them worthwhile to use as a serpent.  Great strength, but again, horrible-as-hell con (and a Xoran already beats them out).  They get headstomp which is... lol.  It does a good amount of damage, but most prep classes have their own prone finishers.

    Satyrs are just bad at everything they do, bar pure str classes (where they slightly excel).

    Why does a race, built entirely around fuckin, partying, etc... have HORRIBLE CON?  ffs.

    Not to mention Xoran get +Fire Resist and firelash at will, Trolls get +ELEC resist and a stun chance on hit...


    Dwarf is one of the better (if not best) races simply because of having a shitton of resists to everything (and those resists being meaningful because those are VERY common damage types).
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  • ShirszaeShirszae Caer WitrinPosts: 2,790Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited October 20
    Taryius said:
    Shirszae said:
    I don't see why a Siren and a Troll could not have the same strength, though. Adventurers are already exceptional by virtue of being adventurers. If an adventurer troll and an adventurer siren have the same stats, its not a comment on how trolls and sirens the world over have the same strength. Its just means that the siren is exceptional (as all adventurers are meant to be, to a point)

    Most trolls will still continue to be bulky, intimidating monsters and most sirens will continue to be lissome, beautiful things. All it'd do is not hamper the people who want to break the mold and play a Siren baddass knight or the like.
    My issue is not that there should'nt be exceptions or that Sirens cant be exceptionally strong knights it is that you will start to get a divide between description and stats. 

    Then you start to see stats become more OOC then they are now.

    No issue with a strong Siren. Its the lithe, fragile sirens with alabaster skin and sapphire eyes that overwhelm me with an insatiable lust somehow being as strong as a 7 foot, muscular Troll that throws me off.
    Stats can't get more OOC than they are now because basically no one treats stats as IC anyway. Not in any particularly meaningful way. They are just a widely talked about mechanic, at most. Nor do I believe most people take stats into consideration when writing their description. 

    As for a random Siren not being super stronk at 18 year old, the argument is pretty silly and pretty arbitrary. People can have whatever stupid background they want to have. Its not for you to decide whether they somehow can justify being strong or not.

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