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DominiusDominius Posts: 80Member ✭✭ - Stalwart
So what makes your city great? What do you absolutely love or hate about it? Why should people come or why you would never walk around and try to find people to join, lets hear it! Rogue? Cool too. Lets hear why being Rogue is so awesome!
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  • ZackeryZackery Posts: 77Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited October 10
    I really enjoy how friendly (within reasonable RP bounds) and open to spontaneous RP Mhaldor is. Even though it's a small city, you can almost always find someone up for a conversation of some sort. It's also really easy to get involved in PK, even if you're not very good at it! Lots of folks are willing to teach you things and give you pointers.

    Plus...

    HataruKietXiasWicella
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,262Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    But that one time you saw Hataru wearing army pants and flip flops, did you also go buy army pants and flip flops?
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
    ZackeryHataruFaur
  • TorinnTorinn Posts: 587Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I'd you don't like worshiping mutilation, targ has all the same plusses.   ;). We aren't exactly small right now though.  
    Deucalion says, "Torinn is quite nice."
    Xias
  • SobriquetSobriquet Posts: 1,692Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Hataru said:
    idk I got to remove someone's nose and call it RP so like.


    Can't beat that.
    Zackery has no nose? How does he smell...?
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  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 474Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Who nose.
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Melodie says, "Get rekt scrubbbbb."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): You say, "Scrubbbssss."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Trey says, "Austere was hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, apparently."
    Taryius
  • ZackeryZackery Posts: 77Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I smell like strawberry ice cream :angry:
    HataruTaryiusSthenoTalamond
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,210Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Mhaldor is, for better or for worse, the only city where I've found RP of the kind I like. I don't even mean thematically (OOCly, I can take or leave the evil thing), but more that the kind of roleplayers it attracts are the kind I like to play with.  Like Zack said, there's always someone to interact with, and the quality of interaction is on average very high for Achaea. There's a hardcore RP crowd there that I simply haven't found anywhere else, and I've played in all the cities. I suppose the occies had this same quality, too, but that's why I tend to think they're one of the best of the older houses. Now that they're gone, that crowd got lost to alts, retirement, inactivity, etc.

    It's lucky that I also enjoy the other aspects of the city (achaea democracy is awful, for instance), but even if I didn't I don't really feel like there's any other choice for me. I'm really not into the blood and gore stuff, but we've moved away from that mostly so I can easily ignore it.
  • CaynixCaynix Posts: 34Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Being a rogue is great because you can do whatever you want.  B)

    Also coming from a newb who left Mhaldor, Mdor RP is legit awesome. The day I broke oath and the ones that followed were simultaneously really depressing IC and incredibly satisfying OOC for the quality of the RP interactions with various people. Haven't lived in any other cities though so can't compare.
    Stheno
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaPosts: 6,276Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited October 11
    Mhaldor does seem to accommodate the highest concentration of people who are interested in spontaneous, midform RP. I think it pretty much always has, for some reason.

    It's a bit disappointing that it is so hard to find it elsewhere outside of small circles. Achaea's advertised as 'RP-enforced', yet 95% of the doesn't bother with it in any significant capacity on a larger scale. I kind of reconciled a long time ago that the sort of intensity I wanted from my interactions wasn't going to happen with Achaea (outside of major world events, when it tends to make a mild resurgence for a short while).

    In that regard, neo-Targossas (aka, present-day Targossas with Deucalion at the helm) has been pretty much drama free and extremely supportive of people who want to create, which is really very nice. It wasn't always that way, though. It's also still *really* thin on city-related RP due to so much of it being essentially opt-in, and the demographic as a whole not being hugely interested in it. Targossas and Mhaldor are sort of opposites in that regard - former is relatively drama free but kind of thin on interaction, the latter is always plagued with some sort of internal drama but the base capacity for meaningful RP interactions is much higher overall.
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,210Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited October 11
    ? I'm like biggest gossip in game and we've had almost 0 drama for like a rl year barring a few people getting in IC trouble the past few weeks and the cateschisms issue. I hear way more about the drama from other cities than I ever run into in Mhaldor. Unless we just define drama as like the normal IC conflict created when characters interact (or Aegoth)
    Hataru
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 474Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited October 11
    I think our internal drama is really overstated by a few select parties who tend to always cause it. Mhaldor has not been more dramatic than any other institution I've been a member of (all cities except Eleusis over 15 years of Hataru and a few alts, about 10 guilds/houses, 3 or 4 orders, also including Lusternia and Aetolia experiences in that statement as well) over all. However...

    I think there's a few reasons for Mhaldor seeming more dramatic:

    1) Hierarchy is really hard for people to follow.

    So when people flip their shit because they can't handle the fact that they have to earn their keep and actively earn it and that having done x y z thing 7 OOC years ago doesn't matter in the here and now in many ways realy causes people to lose it and lose it LOUDLY. This has been the biggest creator of drama in Mhaldor in my experience and given it tends to create LOUD drama I think its easier for people to see it.

    2) People who want to lolzPK tend to be very loud about the fact that RP is enforced and how much they don't like that.

    While its totally fine to play the game to PK - you have the understand that when joining an institution like Mhaldor RP is way more heavily enforced. So you get a lot of people who lose their shit over 'non-comms' (which is a weird thing to even say in Mhaldor, no one in Mhaldor is 100% non-comm, we ALL raid and defend, so in general 'non-comm' in Mhaldor is someone who doesn't duel). That sort of aggressive personality is going to cause more drama, but honestly its drama the majority of us ignore. Its not 'active' drama, it just seems like active drama because they're the loudest types of personalities.

    3) People come to Mhaldor expecting Evil = bullying or Evil = blackest souls of blackest soul omgz grieeefffff people.

    This is generally untrue. Sure it may have been true of Mhaldor and definitely the Infernals guild in like 2002-2006 but its really not true now. Most of us ACTIVELY try and instill the lessson that Evil isn't bullying, we don't subjugate just to do it - we do what we do with purpose. To further Sartan's Will all that cool stuff. But some people do not like that. Some people actively think that Evil in Achaea = traditional OOC view of Evil and its not. And again, the people who feel that way tend to be the loudest.


    Ultimately Mhaldor is not actually 'more dramatic' its just that the dramatic people we acquire for the above and plenty of other reasons are just super god damn loud. You're not going to, generally, get someone who wants to play 'Good' who is going to be that sort of aggressive, loud type of personality so its a by-product of a lot of OOC stereotypes and then IC bitterness about it that merely attacts louder assholes.

    Either way I have been on the leading councils of several orders and houses and cities over 3 games and I have to say. The only difference with the drama in Mhaldor is a lot of it is out-in-your-face-public, rather than insular and behind closed doors but I have in no way ran into more drama overall.
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Melodie says, "Get rekt scrubbbbb."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): You say, "Scrubbbssss."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Trey says, "Austere was hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, apparently."
    Zackery
  • JacenJacen Posts: 2,266Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Daeir said:
    Achaea's advertised as 'RP-enforced'
    Sarapis wouldn't agree with you
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  • CaynixCaynix Posts: 34Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Lolwut Targ doesn't like RP? Dammit Tesha tricked me, brb time to clan quit Shepherds.  :'(
  • TorinnTorinn Posts: 587Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Hahah.  Hataru you make Mdor seem more and more appealing every day... Hmmmm....
    Deucalion says, "Torinn is quite nice."
    HataruZackeryXiasAziik
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 474Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited October 11
    Just doing my Evil duty to shut people down about weird/wrong/generally super out of date assumptions made about Mhaldor.  B)

    Edit: I would like to say on a semi-serious note, Mhaldor has changed a lot over the years and the very few loud voices who continue drama tend to be people who like to pretend it is still 2006 and its just... not. The majority of Mhaldor is a world of different from the way it used to be but we clearly have a PR problem getting that through to people, especially older players :/
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Melodie says, "Get rekt scrubbbbb."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): You say, "Scrubbbssss."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Trey says, "Austere was hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, apparently."
  • AralayaAralaya Posts: 599Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited October 11
    I think the general apathy towards rp in Targ is from the repeated attempts to shove it down everyone's throat.

    That being said, what I love about Targossas is the people. Most of them are pretty cool, some go above and beyond and others take some warming up to. What I really like though is that pretty much everyone is open to some low level rp, even people like @Nazihk are open to some before you catch a flail to the face.


    Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM

    teehee b.u.t.t. pirates
    Xias
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaPosts: 6,276Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jacen said:
    Daeir said:
    Achaea's advertised as 'RP-enforced'
    Sarapis wouldn't agree with you
    You don't get to advertise yourself as 'immersive' without some degree of roleplay element being present. Considering immersive is one of the keywords for Achaea's SEO, it's pretty much implicit. There's essentially nothing immersive about Achaea beyond the roleplay element, unless you class things being written from a 1st person perspective as "immersive".
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,210Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    how can you 'shove rp down someone's throat' in an rp game tho :(
    TorinnHataruDaeirAziik
  • HataruHataru Midwest USAPosts: 474Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Kiet said:
    how can you 'shove rp down someone's throat' in an rp game tho :(
    I've been told this can be done because Achaea isn't an RP game and some people "come here just to PvP".
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Melodie says, "Get rekt scrubbbbb."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): You say, "Scrubbbssss."
    (Mhaldor's Next Top Model): Trey says, "Austere was hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride, apparently."
    Torinn
  • AralayaAralaya Posts: 599Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Kiet said:
    how can you 'shove rp down someone's throat' in an rp game tho :(
    I should've put quotes there since I'm of the same mind as Kiet, but that's what people were complaining about. They were being forced to do RP that they weren't interested in because it wasn't PVP


    Tecton-Today at 6:17 PM

    teehee b.u.t.t. pirates
  • KietKiet Posts: 2,210Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    :weary:          
    Torinn
  • CooperCooper IowaPosts: 4,172Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Oh geez. 

    Halos
  • PenwizePenwize Posts: 1,249Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Truax said:

    I do sometimes wish there was more spontaneous, day-to-day RP. But I've been trying to incorporate more of that into my own interactions with people. It's a bit cliche, but I've realized that if I'm not part of the solution I'm part of the problem, so I'll do what I can to make life interesting for whoever crosses my path!

    The game as a whole could use a lot more of this.  Keep it up, it's the little interactions that make the everyday bits of Achaea worth playing through to get to the bigger events.
    AustereTruax
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