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  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 3,886Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You have to out afflict them. You're faster by a fair margin, have to utilize that.


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  • ExelethrilExelethril moar theta decayPosts: 3,084Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You should be initiating with untargeted clumsy before moving into euphorbia then targeted.

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  • AnedhelAnedhel Posts: 2,367Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Dunno. DW I was fighting kept going for whatever gives clumsy first, and I wasn't able to make any headway. You either stay clumsy (miss a lot even with L3 longsword), or pick up timeloop. Can't really beat six herb affs every five seconds, which is what I was being hit at, and like I said, even if you make -them- clumsy, they give clumsy right back, on the first available balance. Got a log of yourselves fighting a DW who leans on clumsy pretty heavily, by any chance? :/
  • MathildaMathilda Posts: 461Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Timeloop is bellwort, curable by Rage. Might be enough to push you into the safe zone?
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  • AnedhelAnedhel Posts: 2,367Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Rage's cooldown kept it from being enough to outpace the affs from degeneration, from what I saw!
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I know they are rarely used by most but don't knock rend and guardbreak(2nd point of ferocity if I forgot the name)

    Slice/guardbreak to 4, shieldstrike low (can't miss) rend torso, run away or turtle or whatever so you don't die. Repeat till prepped, then fight as normal.

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  • AnedhelAnedhel Posts: 2,367Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    What's the balance on an L3 longsword + buckler supposed to be, with slice combinations?
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Anedhel said:
    What's the balance on an L3 longsword + buckler supposed to be, with slice combinations?
    SnB is supposed to be capped at 1.9s

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  • SenaSena Posts: 3,803Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    "Capped at 1.9s" in the sense that that's what you naturally reach (or just about) with L3 longsword/buckler and nimble, not because there's an artificial cap preventing you from being faster.
  • ExelethrilExelethril moar theta decayPosts: 3,084Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    L2 longsword/SoA btw

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  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sena said:
    "Capped at 1.9s" in the sense that that's what you naturally reach (or just about) with L3 longsword/buckler and nimble, not because there's an artificial cap preventing you from being faster.
    There is (was?) an artifical cap according to admin.

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  • RyzethRyzeth Posts: 1,105Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited March 21
    SoA is same speed as buckler now, btw. No reason not to use it, if you have one.
  • TaryiusTaryius Posts: 271Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Anyone have some specifics on 2H fractures?

    Skull fracs extend sip balance, by how much? Is it 1s per frac?

    Torso fractures reduce sip healing? Again, how much does it reduce this by?

    Not sure if anyone has the specifics from testing.
  • RyzethRyzeth Posts: 1,105Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I thought all secondary effects capped at 5 (hinder, sip bal, etc). The extras are just there for padding.
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ryzeth said:
    I thought all secondary effects capped at 5 (hinder, sip bal, etc). The extras are just there for padding.
    Nope, 6. 11s sip balance yum yum yum. Honestly though it doesn't matter at that point cause the targets probably as good as dead. The ability to prep for a momentum burst is really really strong especially with fractures taking so long to cure. One leg break = 18s of curing from two hits. During which you get about six balances to seriously screw your target. That's where 80% of fights end for me is after just one leg break. 

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  • LeviticusLeviticus Posts: 220Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Can someone point me to the direction (which Announcement) has all the BM changes? Really interested to learn about these changes to voidfist (and stances maybe?)
  • KalilaKalila Posts: 86Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Leviticus said:
    Can someone point me to the direction (which Announcement) has all the BM changes? Really interested to learn about these changes to voidfist (and stances maybe?)
    A quick re-cap (I've not actually read any of these announces.)

    You can combo your fists (void,ice,flame,air) depending on your stance. In Thyr you can slash/air, slash/flame in Arash, slash/ice in doya, slash/void in Sanya.

    Voidfist is extended up to a certain point with pommelstrikes, depending on stance to about 13-14s in all stances except sanya which extends it up to 20-21seconds.

    Hope this helps!
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  • LeviticusLeviticus Posts: 220Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    @Kalila
    <3 You.

    Can I change stances like monks right after combo? Or normally?
  • KalilaKalila Posts: 86Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Leviticus said:
    @Kalila
    <3 You.

    Can I change stances like monks right after combo? Or normally?
    Afraid not, at least not to my knowledge.
    Usually you don't really have to be that adaptive with them either, so it's not a huge issue.
  • TaryiusTaryius Posts: 271Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Adapting stances can really throw limb counters off too.. Since each stance changes limb damage. 
    You'd need something really accurate to swap around mid prep and be accurate. 
  • RyzethRyzeth Posts: 1,105Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited March 22
    Kalila said:
    Leviticus said:
    Can someone point me to the direction (which Announcement) has all the BM changes? Really interested to learn about these changes to voidfist (and stances maybe?)
    A quick re-cap (I've not actually read any of these announces.)

    You can combo your fists (void,ice,flame,air) depending on your stance. In Thyr you can slash/air, slash/flame in Arash, slash/ice in doya, slash/void in Sanya.

    Voidfist is extended up to a certain point with pommelstrikes, depending on stance to about 13-14s in all stances except sanya which extends it up to 20-21seconds.

    Hope this helps!
    Shouldn't Ice be in Mir, since Mir is the water stance and all. Doya is earth, last I recall (which does not have a fist for it)
    BannKalila
  • KalilaKalila Posts: 86Member ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Ryzeth said:
    Kalila said:
    Leviticus said:
    Can someone point me to the direction (which Announcement) has all the BM changes? Really interested to learn about these changes to voidfist (and stances maybe?)
    A quick re-cap (I've not actually read any of these announces.)

    You can combo your fists (void,ice,flame,air) depending on your stance. In Thyr you can slash/air, slash/flame in Arash, slash/ice in doya, slash/void in Sanya.

    Voidfist is extended up to a certain point with pommelstrikes, depending on stance to about 13-14s in all stances except sanya which extends it up to 20-21seconds.

    Hope this helps!
    Shouldn't Ice be in Mir, since Mir is the water stance and all. Doya is earth, last I recall (which does not have a fist for it)
    You're quite correct, that's what I get for posting too late. Oops!
  • KeorinKeorin Posts: 342Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    two questions for anyone familiar with the sawbones trait:

    1. does it track torso damage, in addition to other limbs?

    2. does anyone have a more precise number on the eq hit?
  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,108Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sawbones shows all six limbs, but it's just a message corresponding to a vague range, not an exact value.
  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Is there anything outside of my target being off of salve balance or a long balance that is enabling me to get 5 twist impales? I am getting them somewhat consistently and I have a feeling it's either latency or an svof bug on their end but just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something obvious as I tend to do (like discern being usable off balance #lifechanger)

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  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,355Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    There was an impale bug that was supposedly fixed but wasn't but then got fixed. Or not? idk


  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 3,886Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kenway said:
    Is there anything outside of my target being off of salve balance or a long balance that is enabling me to get 5 twist impales? I am getting them somewhat consistently and I have a feeling it's either latency or an svof bug on their end but just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something obvious as I tend to do (like discern being usable off balance #lifechanger)

    Imp > twistx5 or imp > twistx4 > imp > twistx1 ?


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  • KenwayKenway San FranciscoPosts: 1,120Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Atalkez said:
    Kenway said:
    Is there anything outside of my target being off of salve balance or a long balance that is enabling me to get 5 twist impales? I am getting them somewhat consistently and I have a feeling it's either latency or an svof bug on their end but just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something obvious as I tend to do (like discern being usable off balance #lifechanger)

    Imp > twistx5 or imp > twistx4 > imp > twistx1 ?


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    "Honestly, I just love that it counts limbs." - Mizik Corten
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