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Let mining lodes spawn throughout the entire day.

KurdockKurdock Member Posts: 33
So I've recently been attempting to check out Achaea's mining system since I heard it could be lucrative. However, I run into a small problem.

  I was told that most of the good, rare lodes only spawn at around 6PM GMT, which is 2AM in my time (you can guess where I'm from now! lol). Whenever I'm awake, prospecting never shows up any good lodes, just tiny/small iron lodes that nobody wants. So I suspect this 6PM GMT thing to be true-ish, although some people also think mine lodes spawn randomly.

  I'd like to suggest lode spawns to be spread out as evenly as possible over the course of a day. This will give everyone a fairer chance to find rare lodes, instead of having to wake up late in the night.
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  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    What you were told is not true at all.

  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 1,707 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Cooper said:
    What you were told is not true at all.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
  • KurdockKurdock Member Posts: 33
    Cooper said:
    What you were told is not true at all.
    Oh right ok, thanks for verifying that then sry
  • MathildaMathilda Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    From what I've observed, they don't necessarily pop up around a certain time (1800 GMT or whatever), but it is possible to predict, roughly, when a certain lode would spawn again. That's one of the reasons why valuable lodes like stone get snapped up really quickly, and often by the same people. Just have to be lucky in the prospecting time!
     <3 
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That's not really true either.

    The people who get "valuable" lodes often is because we spend a lot of time prospecting (I spent probably 45 minutes per day doing it minimum).

  • MathildaMathilda Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited March 26
    Hmm, there must still be a factor of knowing when to prospect. I prospect all stronghold areas (except Fissure) four to six times a day and still manage to get mostly only small rawstones and coal galore.

    edit: I got a small carbon recently, so yay!
     <3 
  • MelodieMelodie MhaldorMember Posts: 4,338 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    In fairness, the reason it's so hard to get good lodes these days is because there's just far too many miners fighting over too few lodes. But there's already too many commodities not being used, so you can't really expand how many lodes/commodities spawn in without giving more things to use commodities -on- that eat them entirely. It's been consistently worked out but there's still several without much use, and thus a low price.

    Just the nature of things for the time being.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    SiduriShimi
  • MathildaMathilda Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I just want stone for my house :(
     <3 
    SiduriJurixeShimi
  • TahquilTahquil Member Posts: 3,461 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yo, I heard you like stone.
    Mathilda
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 1,707 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Mathilda said:
    Hmm, there must still be a factor of knowing when to prospect.
    Yes, there is-- but it has nothing to do with the 24-hr clock.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,230 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Mathilda said:
    I just want stone for my house :(
    I can sell you enough comms (including wood) for 70 rooms in-subs, or 35 out. If you've got the credits or gold, hit me up!

  • GreysGreys Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Also, the good miners get coordinated. So if you have say 5-8 miners who note when they prospect, you can have nearly daily sweeps collectively. If you notice, when a certain lode has spawned, those who got it tend to be from the same city.
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Mhaldor isn't coordinated like that at all.

    I hope you all get shrubbed for using Rangor's auto mining script.

  • MathildaMathilda Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    The jump from 'coordinated' to 'automated' is glorious.
     <3 
    Siduri
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    And accurate.

  • MathildaMathilda Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    You're welcome to issue whoever you think is perpetuating an injustice against you.
     <3 
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I don't have time to issue all the people who mine. I do well enough myself anyway! 

  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Here's an example from today, from someone using an auto prospecting script that had the wrong clan activated:

    (Cabinetmakers of Achaea): X says, "LODE FOUND AT Nearing the desert's edge (307) in area the Mhojave Desert TYPE: small lode of iron ore.""

    I'm 90% sure you can configure it to auto writelog too.

  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 1,707 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yes, lots of people auto-writelog their prospect finds.

    Seems kinda whatever to me. Going out and being first to build on a good lode is the important part, which isn't automated.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,725 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I agree with you, Krypton.

    However, the admin do not.

    Message #528        Sent by Anytus
    2016/6/04/14:09 Greetings. In regards to issue #76363 filed against you by x: Please read 
    HELP AUTOMATION. Something is classified as breaking the automation policies when you could walk 
    away from your computer and your character could go on doing the activity. It is not okay simply 
    because you were at the keyboard the entire time. This is a warning to not engage in such automation.

    Note that I wasn't engaging in that type of automation (hence no punishment).

  • MelodieMelodie MhaldorMember Posts: 4,338 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Automation rulings still absolutely boggle my mind. That means fishing with scripts isn't okay, either. It also means that previous exceptions (having to have semi-frequent input to continue the actions, for instance, a fishing script that catches a single fish and you need to do an alias to start it up again) aren't acceptable either.

    It's forever a weird line to walk.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 1,707 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 30
    I feel like (emphasis on this being my personal feeling) the division is between whether your system completes the objective only once, versus over and over ad infinitum with zero additional input.

    Like if the objective is catching fish, if each new catch starts with a manual cast, but triggers handle the jerking and reeling, that is fine. If you can walk away for 10 minutes and your system loops to catch you 10 fish in that time, that's a no-no.

    If the objective is hunting, if each new kill starts with manual targetting, but triggers handle the attacking until it's dead, that is fine. If you can walk away for 3 minutes and your system loops to target and kill all five orcs in your room, that's a no-no.

    If the objective is a logging a lode spawn, if you move through rooms one at a time manually, but triggers handle the PROSPECT and WRITELOG of results, that is fine. If you can walk away for 3 minutes and your system autowalks all possible lode spawn rooms to autolog you a full lode list, that's a no-no.
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
    Laedha
  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaMember Posts: 1,707 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Probably not autokilling everything in a room (they're all teaming you anyway), but everything in the same area (i.e., throwing area autowalker into it).
    (Mhaldor): Herenicus says, "Apologies, I am in-and-out of hold with Verizon wireless customer service."
  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 1,883 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Automation laws come into effect the moment you're doing something in achaea, while your physical presence is not at the key board, regardless of if that's teasing a line, writing a log, or whatever. As long as they are responsive to divine inquiry, there will not be a shrubbery. Outside that, you're gambling with your character. 
  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 3,518 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I automate everything about my hunting except the actual movement from room to room. It makes my life easier, and a task that is already extremely boring to me, less of a hassle. I don't see anything wrong with that.

    No shame.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
    Prythe
  • AhmetAhmet Wherever I wanna beMember Posts: 2,875 @ - Epic Achaean
    See, threads like these are traps. The admin bait you with statements about "oh sure its fine as long as you don't leave", but Makarios is collecting all of your names to ban a thousand people people in what shall henceforth be known as the Great Shrubbing of 738 AF.
    Huh. Neat.
    AustereCaelan
  • ValariaValaria Member Posts: 367 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Ahmet said:
    See, threads like these are traps. The admin bait you with statements about "oh sure its fine as long as you don't leave", but Makarios is collecting all of your names to ban a thousand people people in what shall henceforth be known as the Great Shrubbing of 738 AF.
    i would love to see major event, 'the Great Shrubbing'.

    2015/01/12 Tecton, the Terraformer has bestowed His divine favour upon you. It will last for approximately 1 Achaean month.
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 2,213 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 30
    Knight of Ni: We shall say "Ni" to you... if you do not appease us. 
    Arthur: Well what is it you want? 
    Knight of Ni: We want..... 
     
    (pregnant pause) 
     
                                 A SHRUBBERY!!!! 
    (dramatic minor chord) 
    Arthur: A *WHAT*? 
    Knights of Ni: Ni!  Ni!!  Ni!  Ni! 
    Arthur; No!  No!  Please, please, no more!  We will find you a shrubbery. 
    Knight of Ni: You must return here with a shrubbery... or else you will never pass through this wood...   alive. 
    Arthur: O Knights of Ni, you are just and fair, and we will return with a  shrubbery. 
    Knight of Ni: One that looks nice. 
    Arthur: Of course! 
    Knight of Ni: And not *too* expensive. 
    Arthur; Yes! 
    Knight of Ni: Noowwwww.... GO! 

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."

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