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Alrena said:edit: there is also nothing wrong with my chibi dragon! I will never change it!
What Ailea detailed is why I like Theocratic governments in Achaea. It's -really- hard to find a leg to stand on arguing against something if Big S or the Bloodsworn say "this is how it is", and doing so will find you pretty quickly out of the city.
If antidas is telling you to be less of a dick then...
"You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
The problem with it is if most of the faction, or close to half even, is rebelling against the mandate, it kind of completely undermines the faction as well as the divine. I mean, do y'all ever wonder why Gaia quit? I'm sure there's an assortment of reasons, but at its core, I have a feeling how the city treated her was a big part. It was disgusting, to say the least.It's not that various Eleusians disagree, it's that a large portion of them do everything possible to undermine the faction and anything related to those goals, or to any people who support those goals. That includes, in some instances, organizing OOCly to cause problems, or messaging Tecton and whining, or a slew of other things I'm sure I never heard about. The things I did hear about was enough to chase me off from Eleusis for good.There's nothing constructive or interesting about what's been happening, and it's been happening for OOC years now. It's just drama, headache, and a mess. I wish the Eleusians the best, but I stand by my original statement: There comes a time where you have to let go of the old and embrace the new for the sake of the faction's identity and validity. Now's that time.
I'm not sure there's a resolution to this.Eleusis is eating itself alive because its core lore now involves conflict, and people hate that but choose to stay anyway. As if somehow staying and opposing the very lore that is apart of the city now somehow is helpful.The divide is created by the citizens, not the lore. The citizens need to resolve it by either getting over it or leaving.Not sure if there's much else to be said.
I dunno you guys. I'm really pleased to come home from work to see this actually got some discussion on the matter, even if you're all collectively disagreeing with me lol. Just saying "shut up it won't work you're dumb" was pretty annoying to me. My idea doesn't work, that's fine. Totally fine, it was just an idea. But, I need to say this because the "go find some RP" and "ok then leave dumdum" comments are frustrating, because they're just completely worthless. It doesn't help anything. Like can you say something constructive or helpful? Get outta here. I digress. So, in my opinion, being a rogue is like qq'ing the game without actually qq'ing. I've had a rogue character before, and it's severely boring. Please don't tell me I have to go find RP and the game is what I make it, because rogue life is lonely and depressing and again, boring. Whether you find RP here and there or not. Most people are AFK half the time, or standing around chatting on OOC clans, and/or have no interest in you or your story. Besides, I don't want to leave the city, I don't want to be separated from the story line, I don't want to wander around aimlessly, visiting people and hunting, to no end. Rogue life is not the solution. So, no. And you people saying "gtfo if you don't like it" I'm guessing you would feel just as frustrated if you were in this position. It's not that I'm not having fun (and it's not just me, by the way, this isn't all about me), I have a great time when I'm online. But, when it comes to the actual religious/Naturey stuff RP, when you're not socialising and making friends (IC friends, not on OOC chat clans) then it's just so, so frustrating. There's nothing to be said, because nothing makes sense. "Yeah, I think cities shouldn't exist too, but I don't think killing the people who live in them over and over again is the answer so I'm just gonna stand around and complain" ..okay, well that's stupid. So, what is the answer? This is the problem. This is what I'm talking about. What is the answer? I just want to make something in the game that can be backed by people who don't want to RP their character to be slapping down everyone who feels differently than they do. Meet us halfway by doing x + y so we can get to z. So, that was fun. Just explaining the core of what I think the problem is. If the text/wording makes me sound pissy, sorry. I'm not, I'm just direct.Moving on...I think it was @Sarathai that said something about how each of the cities is never going to compromise, and he said why. I appreciated that. That was useful, so thanks guy. After reading through all the responses, I can see why my idea was never gonna work. I didn't appreciate all the attitude, but you're all right, regardless. So, I guess I'm just back where I started. No clue how to fix the problem, even though I'm willing to put in the work it would most definitely require. If you guys have any suggestions that don't involve giving up in some way or another, I'm listening. Meanwhile, I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing IC, which is mindlessly arguing a moot point. It's frustrating, but it's also fun at times to hear what other people think and try to see things from their position.
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Why not RP exactly what you're saying though? Actually try to persuade the cities to undergo some change. They'll most likely all say no anyway. If someone says yes, that's the point where you ask the Divine to help make it happen.
Your idea is just kinda backwards because the gods aren't going to make it happen for you, which means there's literally nothing for them to do for you presently. You have to RP your way there first.
I honestly thought Rangor and them literally already RPed exactly what you want. I know someone asked to do something in Targ and I said hell no. I'm just not sure where the issue is.