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  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,770Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 2017
    @Jhui is BM. 

    Anyone wanna ada a copy of all the classleads currently?

    ^show all leads (\d+)$

    local i = matches[2]
    while i > 0 do
     send("classlead show " ..i)
     i = i-1
    end


    :)  SHOW ALL LEADS 140 :)


  • DunnDunn The great Buffalo tundraPosts: 5,770Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Shooooot thanks,@Ahmet. Time to procrastinate. 


    Rom
  • SobriquetSobriquet Posts: 1,946Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Does nobody have the balls to submit under their own name anymore? :)
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  • AtalkezAtalkez Posts: 4,629Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sobriquet said:
    Does nobody have the balls to submit under their own name anymore? :)
    They automatically submit as anonymous.


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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoPosts: 2,968Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sobriquet said:
    Does nobody have the balls to submit under their own name anymore? :)
    They were made anonymous so that people would not deride or censure classleads out of dislike for the person who submitted them.

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

  • SobriquetSobriquet Posts: 1,946Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ah. I stand corrected. 
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  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,377Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Yay, ship crew balance queue approval!
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  • MakariosMakarios Posts: 1,712Administrator Achaean staff
    Borran said:
    @Makarios For Classlead 56, support characters are going to just reapply the defense when it fades from the person propping totems. I'm not sure if that was the intention. 

    It will be a very fast tick, but I'm fine with support characters being able to do that, they'll just have to commit more resources than presently.

  • AnedhelAnedhel Posts: 2,367Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Just to clarify, the Uraiad change re: pre-artefact stats... that's not going to let you double up, right? I assume it'll just use the higher of the two bonuses? Like if I've got a +2 str gauntlet and I'm borrowing from someone with a +1, would I get a +2 bonus, right? Not +3? If it's adding up artefacts together, hooooly cow. 
  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,453Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Just assuming, but it sounds like it should be the pre-artefact stats of the person you use it on. If they're wearing +3 con you'd not get any of that, but then it would add whatever +con bonuses you have on top.
    NazihkAnedhel
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoPosts: 2,968Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    So, wait, what's the point then?  I mean, I am not entirely sure I am understanding right, but does that mean that for example, if I uraiad someone who has lvl3 con artefacts, I'd not be able to copy those stats even if I don't have any con artefacts at all?

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

  • BorranBorran Posts: 845Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    It means, stacking yourself for Str, Dex, or even INTO and then assume the CON of someone Con-Spec'd to gain that extra tanking.

  • FarrahFarrah Posts: 1,836Member, Secret Squirrel @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I think it copies str too though, so that wouldn't work.
  • BorranBorran Posts: 845Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Ok, so you can Dex spec for that aging. @Zulah showed me a couple combos that are only possible with high Dex. And you can still get dragon stats, right?

    I think everyone can agree that you shouldn't be able to have two people having lvl 3 str and con arties just because 1 person has them and the other is a depthswalker.And being able to bypass artie stacking rules through a class skill shouldn't be allowed either.

  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoPosts: 2,968Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Borran said:
    Ok, so you can Dex spec for that aging. @Zulah showed me a couple combos that are only possible with high Dex. And you can still get dragon stats, right?

    I think everyone can agree that you shouldn't be able to have two people having lvl 3 str and con arties just because 1 person has them and the other is a depthswalker.And being able to bypass artie stacking rules through a class skill shouldn't be allowed either.
    No, @Makarios just stated you can't use them on Dragons anymore. I am not sure artie stacking was ever a problem, though. I don't think they stacked at all, but if it was, then they could have just fixed that instead.

    Eh, I suppose its still nice, just nowhere near as nice as it was

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

  • KryptonKrypton shi-KhurenaPosts: 2,377Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    The arties don't stack, so that was not the problem.

    The issue raised in the classlead is that a DW who, say, consolidates their +str/+con/+sip/flying/celerity into a single artefact, is disadvantaged when they Uraiad versus a DW who keeps the 5 powers in separate artefacts, as the latter can give away just the +str/+con arties for Uraiad, and still have +sip/flying/celerity to use.

    Yeah, as mentioned, the main point to Uraiad now seems to be so you can race/trait/specialise for INT/DEX, and have Uraiad to get STR/CON when you need it.
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  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAPosts: 1,816Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Daeir said:
    Interesting classleads round. You've opened up the pits of hell to anyone smart enough to abuse the comboable non-void elemental fists, though. They're INCREDIBLY potent in certain offense chains.

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  • ArmaliArmali Posts: 1,026Member, Secret Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Not like it hasn't happened before.

    *wistfully remembers lightning paralysis*
    Prythe
  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAPosts: 1,816Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Chivalry
    --------
    * The ability to RAZE the SPEED defence has been removed. Knights have received a slight accuracy upgrade to account for this. All other forms of RAZE have also lost this functionality.
    @Makarios Blademasters being another class that is (in my opinion) more susceptible to consistent misses on high-DEX opponents, did they also receive an accuracy boost?
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  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,453Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Not sure an accuracy increase was really warranted, since nobody was intentionally razing speed to decrease their opponent's dodge chance as far as I know. Would seem odd to sacrifice affliction and damage momentum to do so when you generally don't miss that much as a knight unless you have clumsiness.
    Cooper
  • MakariosMakarios Posts: 1,712Administrator Achaean staff
    It is very minor to account for that. But yes, blademaster as well.
  • ExelethrilExelethril Posts: 3,197Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I believe the issue lies with speed razing no longer granting a temporary accuracy bonus(whether intentional or not, isn't relevant) thus, becoming a dry penalty balance.

    It probably occurs often enough by accident with some knights, that taking away the raze speed aspect versus dodgier aff classes might make the effects of clumsiness even more pronounced - since they can't recover aff momentum from an accidental speed raze by becoming more accurate for the next 2-3 balances.

    DWB shouldn't benefit from this buff. Blademasters already have access to air/void fist - increasing their accuracy wouldn't be of that much benefit, since they aren't obligated to stick illness against smart parrying.

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  • XadenXaden Posts: 2,290Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    * When you pull someone out of PHASE with an EYE sigil, they will now be knocked off balance.

    It's about time!
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

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  • KythraKythra Posts: 278Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Xaden said:
    * When you pull someone out of PHASE with an EYE sigil, they will now be knocked off balance.

    It's about time!
    Report #113
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    Skill       : Subterfuge     Ability     : Phase
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    coughfuckyoubleakcough

    I know right? :D You're welcome!
  • XadenXaden Posts: 2,290Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kythra said:
    Xaden said:
    * When you pull someone out of PHASE with an EYE sigil, they will now be knocked off balance.

    It's about time!
    Report #113
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    Submitted by: You            Status      : Finalised
    Skill       : Subterfuge     Ability     : Phase
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    coughfuckyoubleakcough

    I know right? :D You're welcome!
    I submitted that exact same classlead last round and the response was that 'you don't lose balance by throwing an eye sigil, don't see why serps should lose balance'

    Delighted they came around.
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

  • AntoniusAntonius Posts: 4,453Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sometimes you just have to keep submitting and hope they're feeling generous that day.
    Liyane
  • SarathaiSarathai Posts: 2,139Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kythra said:
    Xaden said:
    * When you pull someone out of PHASE with an EYE sigil, they will now be knocked off balance.

    It's about time!
    Report #113
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    Submitted by: You            Status      : Finalised
    Skill       : Subterfuge     Ability     : Phase
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    coughfuckyoubleakcough

    I know right? :D You're welcome!
    It's even funnier because Bleak is dormant right now. :p
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  • XadenXaden Posts: 2,290Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sarathai said:
    Kythra said:
    Xaden said:
    * When you pull someone out of PHASE with an EYE sigil, they will now be knocked off balance.

    It's about time!
    Report #113
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    Submitted by: You            Status      : Finalised
    Skill       : Subterfuge     Ability     : Phase
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    coughfuckyoubleakcough

    I know right? :D You're welcome!
    It's even funnier because Bleak is dormant right now. :p
    Or maybe he's just phased :o
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

    Liyane
  • AsmodronAsmodron Posts: 2,404Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I admit I was hoping more for Noose, especially because of its crazy requirement setup, but perhaps the solutions were just not that creative.
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