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  • CaelanCaelan Member Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Aegoth said:
    A jaguar lying in wait.... and not being able to kill me with you and a magi wailing on me for a minute straight. 
    LOL.. I meant before I came back and didn't know what any of the new stuff did.

  • CaelanCaelan Member Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited April 17
    Cooper said:
    Caelan said:
    Proficy said:
    And veil is needed... wanted and used artefact... get with it. Crying about it isnt going to change it. Its not a game changing mechanic. Just QoL, i dont see how you people can complain about that but dont have problems with like a crit pendant. Where your paying to make gold exp faster or the harvesting extracting gloves. Where your paying to make more of something. (Love those artes, just using them as an example).
    Point is. All veil does is make it so you cant sense the person. You can still track, portal, and other things to them..There are alot worse things out and about than someone not wanting to be found.
    Agreed.  I got mine because I wanted to "play" a hunter.  The point of hunting is to be hidden.  I very much used to stalk my 'prey' in game.  Having them not be able to "Farsee Caelan;lol go the other way" was pretty key for a jaguar lying in wait for the person they are hunting to walk by.  I also learned to enjoy that not everyone could keep track of me with things like Dontarion's WHOLIST tracker.
    I mean...the stuff you used to do to people literally made handfuls of people quit playing the game permanently - that is the worst veil defense I've seen posted.

    For those who weren't around, imagine this: 

    Average health in the game at this point is 3k, if you had 3.8k health people were like "holy crap how do you have so much?!".

    Caelan was artied out at this point as a Sentinel with a Lupine pre reflexes nerf and when Raja had level 2 balance regain. He would trap up the area and clouds with traps using hide and his veil while you were hunting. Then use his reflex bow to shoot off 2-3 meteors in about 2 seconds, then start shooting you. The arrows came at a little less than a second balance.  If you tried to run you hit traps and died. If you shielded you just died. If you had wings you would hit traps there and die.

    Or he would trap up and use his perma stun axethrow on you while you bashed and you'd die.

    Or he'd sit on clouds with traps around all the clouds exits and when you hit alertness and his traps he'd just axe you to death. 

    If you managed to get him to actual fight it was usually 3-4 mauls before you died.

    It was not fun and he would do this all day to you, making it so you either logged off for the day or you died 20 times. 

    Not fun! Thankfully every single thing he used to do is not possible anymore! 

    LOL "if you could get him to fight"..  LOL!!

    I usually only reserved shit like that for when people were being asses and/or ganking/trying to gank me because I prefer 1v1 (or in city defense).  Otherwise it was usually a couple noose traps to afford me some time to move/prep.

    Let's not forget that I was also more than willing to fight 1v1 with no arties at that time too (save the axe/spear because that was how Sentinels fought).   I managed to beat Rameus at his peak with no arties (and even refilled a health vial in the middle of the fight) and tore Cypra a new one a few times with no arties when she was the bee's knees.  I think the only people I had trouble with back then was Wulfen and Manu.  I still killed Manu once though, and it was glorious :D

    I was also the only Sentinel I know of to regularly behead people.  Or to use anything but the "maul prep" tactics.  In fact, I worked with @Batista to intentionally expand it and used a tactic very similar to Infernal Vivisect.  I also managed to implement the occasional freeze/pound and a lot of other tactics.

    And meteor was closer to one every 2 seconds with Lupine.  But I get it, it seemed faster.

    And I killed people after the nerf to handaxe as well.

    Saying I was the only one artied out who used "cheap" tactics is so damn laughable, man.  Monk/Infernal teams rolling around?? 

    It's ok though, because now I'm fodder.  Everything has changed.  Half the arties are inconsequential, new skills, abilities, shitty healing for now... etc

    edit:  Meh.. Forums messed up my account.  Sorry for the reply days later. Now the conversation has progressed (but no, I won't delete my counter argument)

  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,077 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I still have that chicken wing you NEVER FUCKING ATE. It's waiting for your mouth :|
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,072 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Whatever happened to hate the game, not the player?
  • CaelanCaelan Member Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Aegoth said:
    I still have that chicken wing you NEVER FUCKING ATE. It's waiting for your mouth :|
    Oh! Put it in the fridge. I'll eat it later!

  • SynbiosSynbios Member Posts: 4,412 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Daeir said:
    Whatever happened to hate the game, not the player?
    The rapid technologization of the world has blurred the lines between man, machine, and software. As software in machines generates avatars symbolizing their meatspace human users, these users have begun to consider themselves and their avatars as one and the same. Since avatars are constructs of the software - in this case, the game of Achaea - little distinction can be made between avatar and 'game-world'. And since my superior data models show an approaching singularity of man-machine-code, I can conclude with 83.452352113% certainty(with a 4% standard deviation) that 'hate the game, not the player' is no longer relevant in this epoch of humanity, as the player and the game are one and the same, now coexisting in a triune-like unity of hate and madness.

    All hail the Singularity.

  • CaelanCaelan Member Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I am technically about 33% machine anyway so... yeah

  • HaloshireHaloshire Member Posts: 31 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    Whoo milk!
  • KafzielKafziel Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited April 20
    Jovolo said:

    The difference is the vastly improved defence of the people outputting damage/afflictions enhanced by artefacts. You used to be able to fight on par with those people because they were easier to kill, it was a more fun game of chicken. Now it's much more a numbers game because everyone is so optimised. The players are just better all around, too.

    Trapped in quote box fuck mobile forums.

    If I had it, I'd post the log of horkval magi Dyzanru tanking three dragon monks here.

    Edit: or maybe it was Dumah? Some d name Mhaldorian
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,119 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 20
    I thought that log was dex bard? I remember coops was in it. Horkie was busted. I was talking about curing syetems anyways
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 3,975 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Def stacking used to be incredibly broken, and was something I took advantage of as frequently as possible.

    I didn't have arties back in those days, but I could tank 7-8 people DSLing/looping disembowel indefinitely, 30+ guards, DKs without ever sipping, and most anything else that did cutting or blunt damage did negligible damage. My mind is still stuck in those days sometimes - I get upset that I can't tank two people for more than 10 seconds now. Back in the day I could do 5-6 and escape most of the time.

  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,119 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Also, just noticed that I can no longer access the forums from the old website. No :( 
  • KoganKogan Member Posts: 216 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Jovolo said:
    Also, just noticed that I can no longer access the forums from the old website. No :( 
    Yeah, pretty much have to search the link via google then click the drop down before clicking cached. It won't be pretty, but it will allow you to view most of the posts.

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