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Ok, so you two were talking about two different - but related - things. Your comment made no sense in the context of "how to stand up in time to shield to avoid heartseed into torso break" (i.e. Ryzeth's post), but makes perfect sense in the context of "how to avoid heartseed".
So my implication was correct. That's all we need to gather from the past page. Not that this is new, pretty there's a thread with the same conclusion from like 2 years featuring Ernam. Long may he rest.